Hawaiian Court Certified Document Fraud Expert Who Has Just Affirmed Obama's Birth Certificate Is Forged Is A Democrat (Congress, lawyers)

[wrecking ball]

in other news the birthers are going after rubio:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogs...rco-rubio.html

[Arus]

Originally Posted by Mr. Jim Robinson

Perkins Coie has used Hayes to testify in their court proceedings.

so? in those proceedings, did he examine the actual documents? And not a highly compressed image taken from a highly compressed PDF scan of a document?

Please list the cases he worked on and the circumstances on which his testimony was used.

Till then, do realize that just because he was used as an expert before doesn't mean that his CURRENT report of the BC is a good one.

Please show us the report.

It is wise not to discredit the man or his work.

Yes it is wise, as we know straight from Hayes, that he never looked at the Birth Certificate in person. That means anything he reports is nothing more than amateur hour on his part, and a mark on his record for making an assessment on something that is not even remotely the original document. A lawyer would tear him to shreds easily by asking only one question: Did you examine the original paper document?

[gomexico]

Originally Posted by bchris02

Birthers need to give it up. They are simply making everyone who doesn't support Obama look like fools and are part of the reason nobody takes the other Obama scandals seriously.

You're right. The Birthers, the Racists ... their off-the-wall rhetoric makes it almost impossible to intelligently discuss important issues ... other than the birht/race issues.

[Mr. Jim Robinson]

Originally Posted by Arus

so? in those proceedings, did he examine the actual documents? And not a highly compressed image taken from a highly compressed PDF scan of a document?

Please list the cases he worked on and the circumstances on which his testimony was used.





Yes it is wise, as we know straight from Hayes, that he never looked at the Birth Certificate in person. That means anything he reports is nothing more than amateur hour on his part, and a mark on his record for making an assessment on something that is not even remotely the original document. A lawyer would tear him to shreds easily by asking only one question: Did you examine the original paper document?

His c.v. includes the following list of few court cases in which he has testified.


Quote:

TESTIMONY

Rosario Alcantara, et al. v. Ralph L. Lujan, et al. Civil No. CVO484-05
Superior Court of Guam (Hagatna, Guam) 10/29/10
Judge: Hon. Elizabeth Barrett-Anderson
Attorneys: David W. Dooley, Esq. & Peter F. Perez, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: William Gavras, Esq. & Rawlen Mantanona, Esq.

“John Doe” v. “Jane Doe,” FC-D No. 09-1-1008
1st Circuit Family Court (Kapolei, HI) 5/25/10
Judge: Hon. Linda K. C. Luke
Attorney: Scott T. Strack, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Geoffrey Hamilton, Esq.

State of Hawaii v. Lisa-Katharine Otsuka, Cr. No. 02-1-2435
1st Circuit Court (Honolulu, HI) 2/19/10
Judge: Hon. Dexter Del Rosario
Attorney: J. Grant Giventer, Deputy Public Defender
Opposing Counsel: Paul R. Mow, Esq.

In the Matter of Rita McGowan
Dept. of Commerce & Consumer Affairs, Regulated Industries Complaints Office (Honolulu, HI) 11/19/09
Judge: Hon. Sheryl Lee A. Nagata
Attorney: Thomas T. Watts, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Patrick K. Kelly, Esq.

Julie Ono v. Jesse Kaiwi-Machen FC DA No. 09-298K
3rd Circuit Family Court (Kona, HI) 11/9/09
Judge: Hon. Aley K. Auna
Attorney: David H. Lawton, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Geraldo W. Scatena, Esq.

Patricia Tiffin Winters v. Frederick Tiffin Winters, FC-D No. 07-1-0464
2nd Circuit (HI) 12/08/08
Judge: Hon. Keith E. Tanaka
Attorney: Stephen T. Hioki, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Linda N. Monden, Esq.

Daniel Creitz v. Robert Leeson
District Court, 1st Circuit (Honolulu, HI) 3/6/08
Judge: Hon. Gerald H. Kibe
Attorney: Richard C. F. Chun, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Marion Reyes-Burke, Esq.

Cecil Loran Lee v. Leonard George Horowitz, et al., Civil No. 05-1-0196
3rd Circuit Court (HI) 2/14/08
Judge: Hon. Ronald Ibarra
Attorney: John S. Carroll, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Dan O’Phelan, Esq.

Leonard Meyer v. Donald S. Meyer, et al., Civil No. 04-1-000930
1st Circuit Court (HI) 5/31/06
Judge: Hon. Victoria Marks
All parties pro se

Social Security Administration v. Susan Gail LaFayette
Office of Hearings and Appeals (Honolulu, HI) 5/05/06
Judge: Hon. Henry M. Tai
Attorney: Rochelle Sparko, Esq.

Terry Lee, et al. v. Joycelyn Wanda Unciano, et al., Civil No. 04-1-0349-01 (RKOL)
1st Circuit Court (HI) 3/15/06
Judge: Hon. Randal K. O. Lee
Attorney: Robert E. Chapman, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Gary Hartman, Esq.

Andrew W. Marshall v. Marilyn Sue Lard, Civil No. 04-1-0183(3)
2nd Circuit Court (HI) 1/17/06
Judge: Hon. Joseph E. Cardoza
Attorney: James H. Fosbinder, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Philip H. Lowenthal, Esq.

Jan Michael Weinberg v. Brenda Dickson-Weinberg, FC-D. No. 04-1-3936
1st Circuit Court (Hawaii) 10/28/05
Judge: Hon. Karen Radius
Attorneys: Charles T. Kleintop, Esq. & Dyan M. Medeiros, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Everett Cuskaden, Esq.

State of Hawaii v. George V. Jemison Cr. No. 04-1-01112
1st Circuit Court (Hawaii) 6/7/05
Judge: Hon. David Lo
Attorney: Bryant Zane, Esq., Deputy Public Defender
Opposing Counsel: Dwight Nadamoto, Esq.

Lales v. Lales, FC-D No. 02-1-3738
1st Circuit Court (Hawaii) 3/23/04
Judge: Hon. Nancy Ryan
Attorney: Darren Li Wu, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Sara R. Harvey, Esq.

State of Hawaii v. [Defendant], Cr. No. 96-0220
1st Circuit Court (Hawaii) 4/5 & 4/6/02
Judge: Hon. Derrick H. M. Chan
Prosecutor: Christopher T. VanMarter, Esq.

Foo v. Foo, T. No. 97-0106 & The Estate of Evelyn Siu Foo, P. No. 99-0648
1st Circuit Court (Hawaii) 11/13 & 11/14/01
Judge: Hon. Virginia Lea Crandall
Attorney: John S. Edmunds, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Jeffrey P. Crabtree, Esq. & Margery S. Bronster, Esq.

Rosa C. Gonzales v. Edith Jamon fka Edith Maddagan, Civil No. 1RC97-4900
Pearl City District Court (Hawaii), 7/17/98
Attorney: Melodie R. Aduja, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Allan Y. Okubo, Esq.

Manguchei v. Nansay Hawaii, Inc.
5th Circuit Court (Hawaii) Arbitration Hearing, 6/16/94
Attorney: Charles M. Heaukulani, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Andrew Winer, Esq.

In the Matter of Dieter Thate
1st Circuit Court (Hawaii) 1/27/98
Judge: Hon. James Aiona, Jr.
Attorney: Robert L. S. Nip, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Michael C. Webb, Esq.

MidPac Discount Brokers v. Shawn McKay
Civil No. 97-1480, 1st Circuit Court (Hawaii) 8/18/97
Judge: Hon. Bambi Eden E. Weil
Attorney: Marshall D. Chinen, Esq.

Peter C. Agualo v. Ronald Perry, M.D.
MCCP No. 96-106, MCCP Hearing, Honolulu, Hawaii, 12/16/97
Client: Peter C. Agualo, pro se
Arbitrator: Karen A. Essene, Esq.
Opposing Counsel: Thomas E. Cook, Esq.

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That is a big partial lawyer client list he was hired for his professional services. You are a delusional fool to call him an amature Arus. Reed Hayes knows what he is doing and his solid credentials can't be doubted.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by Mr. Jim Robinson

His c.v. includes the following list of few court cases in which he has testified.

That is a big partial lawyer client list he was hired for his professional services. You are a delusional fool to call him an amature Arus. Reed Hayes knows what he is doing and his solid credentials can't be doubted.

Nice copy and Paste (and I read his CV).

I asked for the details of each case. Meaning what did he testified to, how was his expertise used (did he examine actual paper documents) and what his testimony was. Please take all the time you need to dig up at least one case where he resorted to only using a highly compressed image of an item, to claim that the item was a forgery.




but, all that is worth nothing, if he will go on to claim that the PAPER DOCUMENT birth certificate is a forgery, based on an Analysis of a highly compressed image, taken from a highly compressed PDF of a scan of the original paper document birth certificate, that was posted online.

A lawyer would tear him to shreds easily by asking only one question: Did you examine the original paper document? with a follow up of: How can you make a determination that the ORIGINAL PAPER DOCUMENT is a forgery based on an image on the internet?

Why do you ignore the above? (that was sarcasm by the way, seeing as you will always ignore the obvious).


why won't Hayes release his findings?


this is basically what you fail and continue to fail to address (as well as the cold cuts posse).

If i take a picture of the Statue Of Liberty
I take it into photoshop and add a moustache to her face and designs to her robe, but in the same color and style as her.
I post it online for all to see.

Does my image of the Statue of Liberty now make the original Statue a forgery/fake/copy?

[GCharlotte]

Originally Posted by Mr. Jim Robinson

That is a big partial lawyer client list he was hired for his professional services. You are a delusional fool to call him an amature Arus. Reed Hayes knows what he is doing and his solid credentials can't be doubted.

But then why the mystery? It's like aliens that feed off drama. The longer they keep the drama in the air the longer they get and the larger the invasion fleet (I've seen this happen).

If it is something that is part of a public document (a reference in an affidavit means beans to Supreme Court of Alabama) then why not post it, as the lawyers say, contemporaneously?

[GCharlotte]

Originally Posted by Arus

A lawyer would tear him to shreds easily by asking only one question: Did you examine the original paper document? with a follow up of: How can you make a determination that the ORIGINAL PAPER DOCUMENT is a forgery based on an image on the internet?

Do you think it matters? Wish we could see the documents in the case to see where it is. Has it survived motions to dismiss? Anyone in Alabama with a computer?

[InformedConsent]

Meanwhile, Columbia professor Henry Graff says...

Graff said, “I taught at Columbia for 46 years. I taught every significant American politician that ever studied at Columbia. I know them all. I’m proud of them all. Between American History and Diplomatic History, one way or another, they all had to come through my classes. Not Obama. I never had a student with that name in any of my classes. I never met him, never saw him, never heard of him.” Even more importantly, Professor Graff knew the other history and political science professors. “None of the other Columbia professors knew him either” said Graff.
Graff concluded our interview by saying, “I’m very upset by the whole story. I am angry when I hear Obama called ‘the first President of the United States from Columbia University.’ I don’t consider him a Columbia student. I have no idea what he did on the Columbia campus. No one knows him.”

Legendary Columbia Professor Never Heard of Obama

[wytrvn]

I'm beginning to wonder if the op and all of his sockpuppets is actually an Obama supporter posting these nonsense threads simply because he knows there are knowlegable people here more than ready to debunk them.

[Mr. Jim Robinson]

Originally Posted by wytrvn

I'm beginning to wonder if the op and all of his sockpuppets is actually an Obama supporter posting these nonsense threads simply because he knows there are knowlegable people here more than ready to debunk them.

Sheriff Arpaio's investigation hasn't been debunked, as well as Hawaii Court Certified Document Fraud Expert Reed Hayes recent 40 page report confirming Obama's birth document is indeed forged. And you don't release your court certified experts findings to the public in an investigation which is about to move forward to a different avenue now.