Hawaiian Court Certified Document Fraud Expert Who Has Just Affirmed Obama's Birth Certificate Is Forged Is A Democrat (declaration, arguments)

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by wrecking ball

i've yet to see any response from the birthers ( besides "steve" on this forum ) about the xerox workcentre 7535 findings. are they just completely ignoring it or have i missed something?

Cognitive dissonance. A real example. When evidence doesn't support one's conclusions.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Obama was not born to a single mom, as both he and his wife have tried to LIE to the American public. His mother's own 1964 divorce filing contradicts that assertion.

Asked and answered. Your continued confirmation bias is your problem alone. No one else here seems to share it.

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

And again, because you remain ignorant of the facts, the State Dept has explicitly determined that those born in the U.S. subject to a foreign power are not even U.S. citizens at all:

That same State Department has explicitly declared in court and under oath that Barack Obama is a natural born US citizen. You are clearly mistaken.

[Factsplease]

OMG...these threads are like broken records. It is sad and hilarious at the same time that birthers are still at it.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Asked and answered.

Actual divorce filing, HD. Filed by Obama's mother's attorney. Read it. It specifically states that the Obamas lived in Honolulu as husband and wife, which confirms the narrative in Obama's book and directly contradicts the ridiculous lie that Obama was born to a single mom.

That same State Department has explicitly declared in court and under oath that Barack Obama is a natural born US citizen. You are clearly mistaken.

Cite the exact words.

[GCharlotte]

Originally Posted by wrecking ball

i've yet to see any response from the birthers ( besides "steve" on this forum ) about the xerox workcentre 7535 findings. are they just completely ignoring it or have i missed something?

They also won't answer what the claim of that handwriting expert being "registered" as a democrat in Hawaii means.

[Nonarchist]

Originally Posted by Factsplease

OMG...these threads are like broken records. It is sad and hilarious at the same time that birthers are still at it.

Who is still at it?

WHO?

It's not ABOUT "broken records", it's about concealed records.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Actual divorce filing, HD. Filed by Obama's mother's attorney. Read it. It specifically states that the Obamas lived in Honolulu as husband and wife, which confirms the narrative in Obama's book and directly contradicts the ridiculous lie that Obama was born to a single mom.

We already called you out on your lie here. It never says anywhere that Obama's parents were living together when he was born. Therefor it can neither confirm nor contradict either of you alleged "versions."

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Cite the exact words.

Again? How many times to I have to do that for you?

I swear, you have the memory of a planarian.

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Excerpts from the testimony:

Paragraph 29: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, that allegation is denied."

Paragraph 32: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, the allegation is denied."

Paragraph 34: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, the allegation is denied."

Paragraph 35: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, the allegation is denied."

Paragraph 36: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, that allegation is denied."

Paragraph 37: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied."

Paragraph 48: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied."

Paragraph 50: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied."

Paragraph 51: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied."

Paragraph 54: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied."

Paragraph 55: "To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied."

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

We already called you out on your lie here. It never says anywhere that Obama's parents were living together when he was born.

Was Obama not born in Honolulu? Is that your assertion now?

Denying an allegation is not the same as explicitly stating a fact. If it were, there would never be any trials. Defense attorneys would merely just deny any and all allegations and no one would ever be convicted of any crime or lose a civil suit. You therefore have confirmed that the State Dept NEVER explicitly stated that Barack Obama is a natural born US citizen. Thank you!

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Was Obama not born in Honolulu? Is that your assertion now?

Denying an allegation is not the same as explicitly stating a fact. If it were, there would never be any trials. Defense attorneys would merely just deny any and all allegations and no one would ever be convicted of any crime or lose a civil suit. You therefore have confirmed that the State Dept NEVER explicitly stated that Barack Obama is a natural born US citizen. Thank you!

They implicitly stated that Barack Obama is a natural-born US citizen. It's implicit when you tell the court that the assertion that Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen is untrue.

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Was Obama not born in Honolulu? Is that your assertion now?

Denying an allegation is not the same as explicitly stating a fact. If it were, there would never be any trials. Defense attorneys would merely just deny any and all allegations and no one would ever be convicted of any crime or lose a civil suit. You therefore have confirmed that the State Dept NEVER explicitly stated that Barack Obama is a natural born US citizen. Thank you!

What does where Obama was born have to do with it?

YOU are now saying that if one person lives at one address, and another person lives at a different address, the fact that both addresses are in the same city means that they are living together. Right?