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Old 06-08-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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Obama may not have been O, Sr's legal heir b/c O, Sr was married to two women at the same time.
The problem was proof of exactly who was the claimant's father. Read the quote from Obama's own book, "Dreams from My Father," again:

"Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark’s father was. So of all the Old Man’s kids, Mark’s claim is the only one that’s uncontested."

Why didn't Obama just submit a copy of his supposed Hawaiian birth certificate listing Obama Sr. as his father?

 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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[quote=InformedConsent;29928204]You don't major in English in high school. The Columbia Professor who states he never taught Obama and neither did any of his colleagues in his department taught students who earned their degree in what Obama claims his Columbia degree is in. They HAD to take those classes to meet Columbia degree requirements.
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ALL department faculty from that time is on record as saying they never taught them? Isn't it possible to not meat, hear of or remember someone in classes that are huge? What level were the courses? Could he have taken them before he got there?

And again, did the guy that wrote his recommendation to Harvard lie?

Or maybe to cut to the chase since I'm new, is the allegation that he didn't go there or that he's mysterious?

Seems like adding up a lot of mysterious without much substance. What's been proven?
 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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You don't major in English in high school. The Columbia Professor who states he never taught Obama and neither did any of his colleagues in his department taught students who earned their degree in what Obama claims his Columbia degree is in. They HAD to take those classes to meet Columbia degree requirements.
ALL department faculty from that time is on record as saying they never taught them? Isn't it possible to not meat, hear of or remember someone in classes that are huge?
Not all college classes are huge. Usually, only the general education and beginning level courses are huge. As one moves up through the course requirement sequence for a degree, the classes get smaller. This is even true of very large schools such as Purdue's engineering programs.


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What level were the courses? Could he have taken them before he got there?
General education and "breadth" courses, yes, probably. Degree requirement classes for a specific major? Not likely. There would be no reason to transfer if he had taken the required courses for his major at Occidental.

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And again, did the guy that wrote his recommendation to Harvard lie?
Why does Obama claim he couldn't prove Obama Sr. was his father when Obama Sr. died? According to the State of Hawaii, Obama Sr. is listed as Obama's father on his birth certificate.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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He apparently attended a "seminar" held at Columbia according to Michael Baron, who was at Columbia for an undetermined short amount of time, most certainly NOT the 46 years that Professor Henry Graff taught in Columbia's History Department via which he taught every significant American politician that ever studied at Columbia during those 46 years.
Do you really think that Professor Graff remembered every student in every class that he taught at Columbia for 46 years? I don't. Do you think that he was the only one teaching those particular courses that he taught over those years? If you've ever attended a large university you know better than that. Or at least you should.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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Barry Soetoro - FOREIGN STUDENT
You just jumped the shark. Never saw that before but 1 second look told me it was fake without a Google search and I still haven't read snopes on it.

The card is too modern looking. The photo is silk screened which was not in use then. It would have used a different method. Barcodes were not that widely used either. Most colleges were on punch cards. They certainly didn't have wand scanners for ID purposes.

Finally, no school segregates foreign students like that.


Please tell me you don't think that thing is true.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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It's looking more and more like the Columbia degree is either fake or only "honorary."
Well as far as dominoes go, wouldn't it be easier to arrest everyone involved with his Harvard admission than a sitting president?

Why isn't anyone doing that?
 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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None of those supposed multiple accounts are from a long-tenured Columbia Professor.
And that's why you'll never see the evidence you desire. You've made it clear that your side gets to pick the jury and the jury must be people that agree with a foregone conclusion. And there's the bit of already choosing the sentence without due process.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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He's done more than you ever have...
And now you're clairvoyant. Makes sense due to the conclusions being made. Once one side tells me they use a crystal ball, I start to warm up to the other. Looks like my boot camp is just about over.
 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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Henry Graff and his colleagues?
Yes. About them. Is he a registered democrat? Which state?
 
Old 06-08-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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How long did Michael Baron teach at Columbia?
According to your logic, the longer someone taught at Columbia the less they should be trusted.

If Columbia says he went there and he didn't, and then you place esteem on one of their professors because he went there so long?

You're saying trust the professor because he was part of such an honest institution that you are accusing of lying.
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