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Old 06-07-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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Shouldn't it be called the "largest violation of the 4th amendment in history"?

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Old 06-07-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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2 faced Obama

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Old 06-07-2013, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Absolutes don't exist in the real world, that is true that you can never have 100% of security or privacy.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: North America
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Shouldn't it be called the "largest violation of the 4th amendment in history"?

You know, it's interesting to me that when the Patriot Act was first passed, people were warned this would happen, and labeled pro-terrorist, and unpatriotic.

How the worm has turned.

BTW, how many threads are going to be posted about this?
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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He is correct, and being realistic. But, that is the problem for the typical "conservative".
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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I'll take my chances with freedom and privacy. As we've seen with the Boston Bombing, the government can't protect you anyway.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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I'll take my chances with freedom and privacy. As we've seen with the Boston Bombing, the government can't protect you anyway.
Their intention never was to protect you.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'll take my chances with freedom and privacy. As we've seen with the Boston Bombing, the government can't protect you anyway.
Do you say the same thing with the number of potential terrorist attacks that have been stopped before they could happen?
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Oh I like that.."modest encroachments"...all my Verizon info is sent to them daily and that's modest ?
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Do you say the same thing with the number of potential terrorist attacks that have been stopped before they could happen?
And how many of them were NOT FBI manage plots ?
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