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Old 06-08-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It took Hitler 8 years of rule changing to get to the point of rounding up Jews.
And it all started off with government backed boycotting of their businesses.

Sorry for pulling a Godwin's Law but there is no better example of how propaganda and eroding rights got Hitler to power with the backing of the people.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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Someone has been reading talking points.

Yesterday someone listed names to back up what the administration is doing. I took that first name and it turns out it was an FBI informant who ratted on him and then the FBI set him up and then "captured him" and took credit for thwarting another "act of terror" on Americans.

And we had another post with a link of a Congressman defending what the administration is doing by saying it helped catch the Boston bombers. Well that's impossible since the bombing took place on 4/15 and the court order was signed on 4/25.

My advice is to NOT take media articles at face value anymore.

And yes, Obama has told us that the War on Terror is now going to concentrate on deranged US Citizens and legal immigrants living in the US. And this single court order showing the government is getting phone records for 33% of Americans on a daily basis is proof enough.
a Congressman defending by saying it helped catch the Boston bombers. Impossible since the bombing took place on 4/15 and the court order was signed on 4/25.

Really, just more attempts to defend the Obama administration proven to be a lie.

With Obama demonizing republicans or anyone who speaks out against him and the left calling the right the Taliban who do you think the left will insist are deranged US citizens?
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: texas
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I don't think this has anything to do with terrorists. If this administration and the one before were really concerned with safety they would close the darn border and deport illegal aliens instead of advocating for another amnesty.

This surveillance crap is nothing but tyranny.
You want to fight surveillance and tyranny with deportations en masse. Where would all this information of illegal aliens come from? How would a "deporter" know exactly whom to deport?. It's OK to "violate" presumed aliens and those that might resemble aliens[whatever that is] to make us more free.

Because we all know, We believe the US govenment is incapable of handeling any task on rights and security, when it is to our convience, yet and still are willing to intrust the federal govenment with the task of removing all illegal aliens...all the while...Protecting that American's rights would never be violated in our grand scheme.

That is as logical as... constantly complaining how liberal and 'off the mark' public schools and public education is...and then wanting these same people to be responsible for kids religious upbrining and prayers.

Does not compute.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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It took Hitler 8 years of rule changing to get to the point of rounding up Jews.
And it all started off with government backed boycotting of their businesses.

Sorry for pulling a Godwin's Law but there is no better example of how propaganda and eroding rights got Hitler to power with the backing of the people.
Well then it has already started. "You didn't build that"
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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a Congressman defending by saying it helped catch the Boston bombers. Impossible since the bombing took place on 4/15 and the court order was signed on 4/25.

Really, just more attempts to defend the Obama administration proven to be a lie.

With Obama demonizing republicans or anyone who speaks out against him and the left calling the right the Taliban who do you think the left will insist are deranged US citizens?
And not one journalist there dared to correct him or call him on it.
Why is that ?
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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And not one journalist there dared to correct him or call him on it.
Why is that ?
Media bias and they are falling on their faces. Now they must defend Obama and his administration at all cost. They have too much invested in Obama.



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Old 06-08-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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One has to wonder why Jews didn't get out of Germany. Did they reject those voices too.
It happened rather gradually and the majority of people -- not unlike the population today -- just couldn't believe what they sensed was happening.

"no, it can't be..." is a form of self denial.
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Old 06-08-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Who knows. This reminds me of the files l keep on citizens under Edgar J Hoover obtain by agents assigned to get it. We still do not know the full extent of use but we know that presidents thru Nixon requested information in them. Where they just curious; not believable. Also justified by protecting the people. Sounds like what Same justification we have heard thru out the ages to subvert the law on search and other laws governing legal conduct by government.
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Old 06-08-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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One has to wonder why Jews didn't get out of Germany. Did they reject those voices too.
There were mass emigrations out of Germany.
But back then countries had to agree to receive them..it was legal immigration.
There was no "cross the border and claim refugee status" like we have today.


From 1933 to 1941 over 400,000 Jews were able to emigrate.
162,000 were left in 1941 when emigration was forbidden.


German Jewish Refugees, 1933?1939
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:39 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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There were mass emigrations out of Germany.
But back then countries had to agree to receive them..it was legal immigration.
There was no "cross the border and claim refugee status" like we have today.


From 1933 to 1941 over 400,000 Jews were able to emigrate.
162,000 were left in 1941 when emigration was forbidden.


German Jewish Refugees, 1933?1939
And some shiploads were refused by other countries, America being one.
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