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Old 06-08-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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Would you quit following me around the forum? Go hike on someone else's leg.

I see nothing that would impact today's Medicare Beneficiaries.
LOL, following you? You sound very paranoid or are you saying I don't have a right to post. And I notice a pattern with you. As was said... What part of Custer don't you understand?

With the Obama administration there is one incident after another that comes back to the same thing, there is a pattern. You have entity after another going after the American people. There is a pattern and you and liberals refuse to see it.

LIiberals continue to dismiss everything Obama does. It worries Americans and don't dare speak out against it, we've already seen what happens when you do.

We are too knee deep in Obama's sh*t that it's time for you to wake up.

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Old 06-08-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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Btw I voted for Obama so I'm not one of those people who thought Obama was Kenyan, etc. However I do regret voting for him and last time voted Libertarian. I'm in Illinois so not like my vote counted anyway.
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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LOL, following you? You sound very paranoid or are you saying I don't have a right to post. And I notice a pattern with you. As was said... What part of Custer don't you understand?

With the Obama administration you see one incident after another that comes back to the same thing, there is a pattern. You have entity after another going after the American people. There is a pattern and you and liberals refuse to see it.

LIiberals continue to dismiss everything Obama does. It worries Americans and don't dare speak out against it, we've already seen what happens when you do.

We are too knee deep in Obama's sh*t that it's time for you to wake up.
What is it that you are speaking out against? I have yet to see anyone demonstrate exactly what part of Medicare that Obama is cutting.

Yet another issue you continue to deflect while you just paint your hate in broad, generalized strokes against Obama, against half the country in general. Rarely any specifics.
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:20 PM
 
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My parents were big Obama supporters and "Republicans are bad, Democrats are good" people. That is until they got a letter from AARP saying Obama wants to cut Medicare. AARP is no right wing organization and has always been fair.

Yes I would rather tax dollars go towards people who paid into the system and are elderly versus freeloaders, especially freeloading illegals. Yes I support elderly, disabled and veterans (especially disabled)over welfare queens and illegals.
People kept saying that and the Liberal msm's protected him if I were you I and anyone else upset at the Liberal Msm's protection of obama write them and blast them for not doing their jobs.
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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Just for the heck of it, here are the current petitions from AARP on this matter:

Get the Facts on Medicare and Social Security - You've Earned a Say - AARP

https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=3291
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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LIiberals continue to dismiss everything Obama does. It worries Americans and don't dare speak out against it, we've already seen what happens when you do.

We are too knee deep in Obama's sh*t that it's time for you to wake up.
ERP, an Obot is a hopeless case. No point in trying to converse with one. They're like the Manson girls, c. 1969.

Best to just inform other conservatives.
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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Specifically, how does he want to cut Medicare?
Specifically they are cutting how much they are giving to providers, this is supposed to be the major savings in the healthcare bill. Providers are expected to just accept it however the CBO has called these cuts and I quote "unrealistic".
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https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statist...2010-04-22.pdf

It is important to note that the estimated savings shown in this memorandum for one category of
Medicare provisions may be unrealistic. The PPACA introduces permanent annual productivity
adjustments to price updates for most providers (such as hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, and
home health agencies), using a 10-year moving average of economy-wide private, non-farm
productivity gains. While such payment update reductions will create a strong incentive for
providers to maximize efficiency, it is doubtful that many will be able to improve their own
productivity to the degree achieved by the economy at large.Over time, a sustained reduction
in payment updates, based on productivity expectations that are difficult to attain, would cause
Medicare payment rates to grow more slowly than, and in a way that was unrelated to, the providers’
costs of furnishing services to beneficiaries. Thus, providers for whom Medicare
constitutes a substantive portion of their business could find it difficult to remain profitable and,
absent legislative intervention, might end their participation in the program (possibly
jeopardizing access to care for beneficiaries).
Simulations by the Office of the Actuary suggest
that roughly 15 percent of Part A providers would become unprofitable within the 10-year
projection period as a result of the productivity adjustments. Although this policy could be
monitored over time to avoid such an outcome, changes would likely result in smaller actual
savings than shown here for these provisions.
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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Yep and now that AARP got involved I hope people wake up to the fact. I would rather pay taxes toward elderly who paid into it over an illegal or a welfare queen/king.
So this thread basically is NOT about the parents, or the AARP mailing they received, it's mainly about illegals, welfare recipients, poor and Obama, got it!
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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Medicare eats up a huge percentage of the entire federal budget each year and continues to rise. At the current rate of cost growth, you will have cuts somewhere - either from other parts of the budget, or in Medicare itself, or some mix of both.

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I would rather pay taxes toward elderly who paid into it
You don't pay enough in taxes to cover the shortfalls. None of us do. That's why we have a budget deficit and an expanding national debt.
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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Medicare eats up a huge percentage of the entire federal budget each year and continues to rise. At the current rate of cost growth, you will have cuts somewhere - either from other parts of the budget, or in Medicare itself, or some mix of both.



You don't pay enough in taxes to cover the shortfalls. None of us do. That's why we have a budget deficit and an expanding national debt.
We need to cut welfare benefits. These people don't pay into anything.
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