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Obama took it upon himself to order the bombing of a sovereign nation which posed absolutely no threat whatsoever to the security of the United States. The bombing of a sovereign nation without cause is ILLEGAL and IMMORAL.
I would honestly vote for Al Gore or Ralph Nader at this point. They would be awful economically, but I would seriously vote for a true progressive over any toe-the-line GOP candidate.
Oh good then we can attack Al Gore for being uber rich.
So there was a time when the GOP, far and away, had a FAR worse civil liberties record than the Democrats. No debate, the GOP is awful, crafted the Patriot Act, etc. But at this juncture, between drone bombings, illegal wars in Libya, Benghazi, NSA, AP, DOJ, just the entire swamp of misdeeds from this president, I think the Democrats have lost the moral high ground on civil liberties, they are as bad as Republicans.
I don't take ANY liberal who still supports Obama seriously. They're all a bunch of sheep. Instead of liberals, conservatives, libertarians coming together and saying hay lets take back the country, you have some liberal idiots saying "well bush did it" "if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't worry" and all kinds of other sheep talk.
It's best to get the facts straight. First, there was no illegal way in Libya, we won without ever having one US troop on the ground. Iraq on the other had, was an illegal war.
Benghazi is fox news and the right wing machine trying to make a huge issue out of a non-issue. Under W's watch, 53 americans were killed in numerous attacks on our embassies, and not a peep from the GOP.
All that has been going on, is the GOP propaganda machine trying to take anything they possibly can and spin it to high hell in an attempt to make him look bad. Fast and furious blew up in their faces, and now they are on Benghazi. Once that keeps blowing up in their faces, they'll move onto something else.
So there was a time when the GOP, far and away, had a FAR worse civil liberties record than the Democrats. No debate, the GOP is awful, crafted the Patriot Act, etc. But at this juncture, between drone bombings, illegal wars in Libya, Benghazi, NSA, AP, DOJ, just the entire swamp of misdeeds from this president, I think the Democrats have lost the moral high ground on civil liberties, they are as bad as Republicans.
Note that in 4 pages, there's not a single rebuttal to your original statement.
Which candidates are that? How do you get enough people to be aware of that candidate?
The voters are the problem.
Allowing idiots to vote has given us the corrupt system we now have.
If voters were largely informed and intelligent, the two major parties would have no choice but to run honest candidates who respect the Constitution, but the same major parties know they don't need the votes of the informed when the dim-wits can be counted on to show up in mass on election day.
There was no declared war, no constitutionally authorized declaration of such. Obama took it upon himself to order the bombing of a sovereign nation which posed absolutely no threat whatsoever to the security of the United States. The bombing of a sovereign nation without cause is ILLEGAL and IMMORAL.
There was nothing to "win" in Libya--unless you want to count the formation of its first-ever central bank and its being taken off the gold standard. Unless you want to count the crony oil contracts being given out to Western companies. Unless you want to count the genocide being committed against the black African immigrants who lived there.
Unless you want to count the thousands of innocent Libyan civilians MURDERED by U.S. and NATO bombs.
You're missing the point!
Cameron and Sarkozy (real leaders) told the world's most prominent follower to follow them into a war of choice to secure oil and natural gas supplies for Europe.
He was happy to follow their directions as this action, while illegal and immoral by liberal standards, was no more politically embarrassing than voting present.
So there was a time when the GOP, far and away, had a FAR worse civil liberties record than the Democrats. No debate, the GOP is awful, crafted the Patriot Act, etc. But at this juncture, between drone bombings, illegal wars in Libya, Benghazi, NSA, AP, DOJ, just the entire swamp of misdeeds from this president, I think the Democrats have lost the moral high ground on civil liberties, they are as bad as Republicans.
Really? With all the history of racism and PC language from the Democrats the GOP was "FAR WORSE"?
And so has EVERY SINGLE military action perpetrated by this criminal government since WWII...
I agree 100%.
But "this criminal government" is composed primarily of Democrats and Republicans--both parties which are equally guilty of corruption, incompetence, irresponsibility and selling the nation and its citizens out to the highest bidder.
Partisanship is a ship of FOOLS.
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