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Did we REally need a whistle blower to tell us that the gov. is spying on US? Of course not except for the newly established ability to challenge the constitutionality of it.. GOOD, dont be a partisan hack. See it for what it is
The problem is that the justices in court which authorizes the surveillance are appointed by John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. I dont see him rule against his own guys.
The problem is that the justices in court which authorizes the surveillance are appointed by John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. I dont see him rule against his own guys.
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The problem is that the justices in court which authorizes the surveillance are appointed by John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. I dont see him rule against his own guys.
Things are just out of hand with the gov. and I dont just mean THIS admin.// People need to stop being partisan hacks Oh God I'm probably gonna be in trouble now
The treasonous swine who compromised US intelligence gathering on foreign terrorist threats has come forward to claim his infamy. He held a position of great trust, lied to his superiors and then betrayed his country for his personal political agenda.
Let's hope this is his first step on a long stay in a 10x10 cell in Florence, CO. Death is what he deserves, but a life in solitary will be OK with me too.
This man is a hero. He has exposed the vicious circle that is NSA + FISA + judges who rubber stamp all warrants making a mockery of due process and reasonable cause.
The government betrayed the trust of the country with this kind of program going on without even informing the total body of congress and the senate. This program was kept in the dark from our elected representatives except for a select few with unchecked power.
The problem is, since the majority of people are cowards and cannot make a tough decision and live with it we have the judges/pres/select congressmen that justify this by not wanting to be the guy who let an attack happen on his watch despite the shredding of civil liberties in the process and especially when it isn't easily seen and known as it is happening.
The reason we have to tap everything on everyone is because we war monger. If we didn't attack, fund, arm and provoke every single tussle that happens between foreign countries we would be a safe, more private and more free society.
This system is a byproduct of war mongering and invading sovereign nations.
I think for once, Obama's appointees and liberals on the SCOTUS and possibly with Scalia will help out Rand Paul and get this policy overturned/unconstitutional when challenged.
Anyone who support this kind of program is as un-American as you can possibly be. You are the kind of person that would point out where the Jews were to the Germans, the kind that would give battle plans to the British and the kind that will look the other way when a crime is in progress.
The most disgusting, unprincipled, immoral, fearful, cowardly bootlickers of the worst kind.
Why would it? The court is rubber stamping everything no matter who sends the request. The rubber stamped for Bush, and now they are rubber stamping for Obama.
"In the secret FISC court, the government doesn’t need to establish probable cause to get a warrant or court order, and it has a lower burden of proof than usually required by the Fourth Amendment."
It is easy to point fingers and say it's McCains fault, Graham fault, Obamas fault, Holdersfault, Bushs fault etc.... They are simply using the methods and procedures which make this possible. Their actions are legal, authorized by the courts. If something needs to be changed, it is the court which authorized the actions. Since 9/11 the court has hardly ever turned down an authorization request. The Supreme Court will not fix this because they appoint the justices on the court in question. The only person who has broken the law here is the guy who gave state secrets to the foreign media. Everything else is only personal opinon.
Justice Department Fights Release of Secret Court Opinion Finding Unconstitutional Surveillance
I think for once, Obama's appointees and liberals on the SCOTUS and possibly with Scalia will help out Rand Paul and get this policy overturned/unconstitutional when challenged.
How is that going to help? Only one of the SCOTUS judges appoints the justices in the rubber-stamp court, and he is the conservative Bush appointee John Roberts.
Marxists typically succumbed to this disease while purging idealists who questioned how their utopian socialist idea was looking more authoritarian on a daily basis.
Some are also interested in getting some cushy .gov positions, and their loyalty to the regime will not go unnoticed. The Stasi rewarded loyalists with very nice pensions, comfortable desk jobs, and promises of a very comfortable life.
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