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Old 06-12-2013, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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But he believed Obama just like you. Unlike the left this information was posted. Had it been the other way around that little point would have been edited out.

He believed Obama just like you though.
You mean he believed in Obama just like you?
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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How in the world did a high-school drop-out, military reject, community college drop-out, and security guard end up working for Booz Allen Hamilton in Signals Intelligence? I think that's the bigger news story here.

And he was not an Obama supporter.
And despite of what he said, his salary was not 200K.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Clearly Snowden wasn't following politics closely in 2008. If he was he would know that Obama voted for the wiretapping program.
Wiretapping? I thought it was collecting, is it now wiretapping?

At issue is a surveillance program launched by the National Security Agency after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The agency asked telecommunications companies such as AT&T Inc. and Verizon Communications Inc. to help it monitor the international calls and e-mails of customers in the United States without warrants.

Obama outwardly opposed terrorist surveillance legislation, saying that he would filibuster any bill that includes immunity for American telecommunications companies that had been asked by the government to participate in the program.

But recently the Senate again took up legislation that would let the phone companies off the hook. It would also expand the government's domestic spying powers. Obama declined to filibuster the bill. In fact, he voted for it.

None of that, however, negates Obama's promise to filibuster "any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies." He declined to do so.

And you call Romney a flip flopper.

Obama's campaign did not respond to our request for comment. But in this case, it's clear that the McCain campaign's accusation of a flip-flop is True.

PolitiFact | Obama's wiretapping flip-flop? Yes
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Wiretapping? I thought it was collecting, is it now wiretapping?

At issue is a surveillance program launched by the National Security Agency after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The agency asked telecommunications companies such as AT&T Inc. and Verizon Communications Inc. to help it monitor the international calls and e-mails of customers in the United States without warrants.

Obama outwardly opposed terrorist surveillance legislation, saying that he would filibuster any bill that includes immunity for American telecommunications companies that had been asked by the government to participate in the program.

But recently the Senate again took up legislation that would let the phone companies off the hook. It would also expand the government's domestic spying powers. Obama declined to filibuster the bill. In fact, he voted for it.

None of that, however, negates Obama's promise to filibuster "any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies." He declined to do so.

And you call Romney a flip flopper.

Obama's campaign did not respond to our request for comment. But in this case, it's clear that the McCain campaign's accusation of a flip-flop is True.

PolitiFact | Obama's wiretapping flip-flop? Yes
Yes, Romney and Obama are flip floppers.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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this guy is just a joe the plumber for 2013. his story is full of fantasy and inaccuracies. I can't wait to see what his supporters have to say when his story starts to crumble like a stale cookie.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Default Ron Paul: When you have a dictatorship, truth becomes treasonous

Its amazing out of all the scandals nothing Obama has done is treasonous, but yet truth be told by a whistleblower he is enemy of the state & guilty of treason. The war on terror is to justify the criminal activity of the “government” in DC.

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Old 06-12-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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If Obama is a 'dictator' then what the hell is Stalin?
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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That Ron Paul suffers from mental illness and says a lot of 'off the wall' things is a given. I place as much importance and have as much interest in what he says as I do in what others who are mentally ill do. Let him express his opinion, which is his right. My right is to ignore what he says.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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How exactly do we have a dictatorship here? Does this mean there won't be a 2014 and 2016 election? You guys throw around the word dictatorship a little too liberally.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: USA
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He's right on target.
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