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Old 06-10-2013, 07:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You have no way to know what each individual person believed... Typical of people like you; take plain satistics and try to fit to some weird narative.

What a crock of crap.


You would give your life, for something you don't believe in?
I think it is you that crapped in your crock.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They don't actually want to "fight" the revolution..they are waiting for the Jerry Lee Loughner's to do the heavy lifting


Welcome to the revolution...

You posted pictures of three nutjob democrats. Where you trying to make a point?
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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Whatever the government is doing today pales by a factor of 10 compared to the spying programs of the 50's and 60's. The Counter Intelligence Program conducted by the FBI from 1956 to 1971. During that period not only did the FBI conducted wire taps without warrants it physically entered the homes of private citizens, it used government agents to infiltrate political organizations for the intended purpose to cause dissension, mistrust both within those organizations but between organizations as well, and worst of all the FBI conspired with local police departments to frame, withhold exculpatory evidence and in some cases kill members of organizations that the Bureau designated as being subversive.

Ironically, today's so-called patriots castigate the insurrectionist of the 1960's, individuals like Bill Ayers, Bobby Seale, JoAnne Chesimard, Assata Shakur, Geronimo Pratt, who actually lived through a real police state created through COINTELPRO by the U.S., state and local governments and whose rationals at the time for taking up armed resistance to the U.S. weren't that dissimilar to the arguments that you and others espouse today.
Is int it ironic? The tea Party "patriots" believe in freedom for their beliefs not others.
What irks me is when they throw the libertarian label upon themselves. Libertarianism derived from the cultural/social and economic revolution in the era you mention above. It has nothing to do with the agenda of the neocon derived Bachmann disciples.
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