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Old 06-11-2013, 11:04 PM
 
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Never worked for any of those. I've worked for Hardee's, Domino's. 7-11, Papa Johns, Little Caesars - some of which others here have claimed offer benefits - and some mostly local independents.
Then don't say that you have worked for them or that they don't provide benefits. Btw, 7-11, Papa John's, and Dominoes do provide benefits.

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Before I say anything, how many of these places have a waiting period where you cannot get benefits? If so, how long? I know with Fry's/Kroger's they require you an entire year before you qualify into benefit packages. I heard this from a recruiter at a job fair several months ago.

Also do this apply to part-time because this is where we have seen the increase: part-time, minimum wage jobs?

I looked at Kohl's benefits and they only offer a fraction of the services to store employees as they do at corporate headquarters:

As you can see, in store employees are not as
Most places have a waiting period for full benefits. But the original claim was that min wage employers do not provide benefits.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:15 PM
 
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Then don't say that you have worked for them or that they don't provide benefits. Btw, 7-11, Papa John's, and Dominoes do provide benefits.



Most places have a waiting period for full benefits. But the original claim was that min wage employers do not provide benefits.

Yes, someone else in this forum previously said the above do offer benefits, which is why I claimed to have worked for "them" - I understood your list as not intended to be exhaustive, but to illustrate that many of these fast food employers do offer benefits.

But during the time I worked at those places i never ever heard a word about benefits. I've just assumed that min wage and no benefits is standard in fast food, with high employee turnover, and i've never expected that someone would ask about benefits for a job flipping burgers.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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When occupations are compared, experience and education, you see the 77% gap.


This may be true, but market forces are in play.

If women want to cluster in lower paying fields because they don't want to get their fingernails dirty, that's on them.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:00 AM
 
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all day today i've been hearing that women today earn 77 cents for every dollar earned by men. (apparently the big 0 commented on this and got a lot of media coverage)

at min wage workplaces, the "wage gap" is low to nonexistent or maybe even negative (i.e. women earn more than men).

so shouldn't feminists consider this sector to at least be egalitarian?

we should be campaiging for 'machoism' really, because a hot girl will earn more than a man in many jobs, eg: waitress, barstaff, hooking,stripping, porno flick etc..and they can marry a man for money far easier than the other way around

so that is blatant discrimination and should be dealt with somehow!
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:42 AM
 
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it is a mathematical fact that as the number of low-wage jobs increases, pay parity of men and women increases.
Right.

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isn't that better than women earning 77% of what men earn?
No, it isn't better, because it is earning less money for both sexes.

Pay equality isn't the only goal feminists have.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I agree wages should be equal but we have to remember that men and women are different when it comes to negotiations. I made this post earlier on in the thread.

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I heard this during a business communication course. We were talking about job interviews and accepting job offers and entering into wage/salary negotiations. I heard one of the reasons that women may may less is based on women being not as good at negotiations. Women do not want to try to fight being "low-ballled" with wages during negotiations while men do not fear that and will challenge it.

I wonder if any other people have opinions on this idea.
FYI, the professor for this course was a woman. She was asked about the wage gap.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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Yeah, some women use it simply to put women down.
Glad you're for equality, njm.

For you who aren't.
Some day that will be your daughter making 77% of a man's salary for doing the same job.
Don't whine and tell her the truth, that you support her making less because she's a woman.
So true!
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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we should be campaiging for 'machoism' really, because a hot girl will earn more than a man in many jobs, eg: waitress, barstaff, hooking,stripping, porno flick etc..and they can marry a man for money far easier than the other way around

so that is blatant discrimination and should be dealt with somehow!
Great points!
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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If everyone made 10 cents an hour the cost of the product is drastically dropped. The minimum wage is a joke, you cannot increase the value of your work by having the government set a figure.

McDonald's worker makes $7.50/hour and they pay $5 for McDonald's meal
McDonald's worker makes $75/hour and they pay $50 for McDonald's meal
McDonald's worker makes $750,000/hour and they pay $500,000 for McDonald's meal

The only way you increase your pay is to increase the value of your work.
The value of those jobs isn't determined by the free market. It's distorted by things like food stamps
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:11 PM
 
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The value of those jobs isn't determined by the free market. It's distorted by things like food stamps
Its always fascinating when someone posts on a topic almost a year old. The same crazy is in all of the old topics as we have in the new one.
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