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I think the problem here is that certain posters already declared this guy a hero, and now that he is turning out to be a true traitor, they are too ashamed to admit they were wrong. This is not a right vs left issue. Anyone can disagree with the Verizon case, but no one should defend a guy who is handing out classified information to the Chinese.
I hate to say it, but I told you so. I said he went to China to because he is going to give, or sell them classified CIA information, and I was right.
People can figure things out. They are not stupid. If you tell them we are spying on universities, businesses and public officials, it gives them stuff to work on, and it may lead to them arresting US officials. We don't know what else he is giving them, it may well be names. He had access to highly classified U.S. intelligence and now he is in China singing like a canary. How can you defend that??
He's singing against your Government, not your country.
They think "hacking" is Mathew Broderick getting a password and tapping into the WOPR to play a game. lol
I don't get into details here but there's huge talk on the techie forums on this.
The NSA has broken the SSL keys or were given the keys by the big players (secure socket layer) to do this. They had to if they are intercepting data. And again, as the big players say..there is no DIRECT access.
Think about that....
This is encrypted data we're talking about that the NSA is taking.
Like you said, this is an attempt from the Left to try and defend the Obama administration. NOTHING secret was revealed in what he said, it was a well known fact that the Chinese were being hacked since they hack us on a regular basis. I don't think anyone in China is losing sleep over this.
Fact is our government thinks WE are the threat now.
Anyone who doesn't agree with Obama and his administration is a threat. And the sheeple let the wolf in and invite him to dinner and still don't realize it.
So your solution is to embolden our enemy countries to make them a bigger threat?
One doesn't need to be appointed to meet with foreign leaders. That is a citizens right, which is why there was no prosecution of Kerry by the, shall we say, less than magnanimous Nixon administration.
Yes in your warped world there is no difference between releasing secret/confidential information that you are statutorily prohibited from revealing and meeting with a foreign delegation. Got it. .
Again please provide this secret/confidential information you folks are bellowing about? A links should suffice. Your rantings and ravings do not.
This is the smear campaign that I figured would happen.
I don't know if it is a smear campaign as much as it is a "bigger picture."
I think we have a young man, Snowden, who sees himself as a whistleblower, a man standing up for the truth. But it's the truth as he sees it. I'm glad he released that court order to the media, so that there was something real and tangible that told us exactly how far our government has gone. I'm far less thrilled that when he left our country to go to Hong Kong, that he took with him other documentation that he seems prepared to share with the Chinese.
Yes, I completely believe that the United States hacks into the computers of other countries. And I completely believe that China hacks into the computers of other countries. And I completely believe that terrorists and criminals hack into computers. We live in a world where information is stored on computers, and information has value.
But given Snowden's remarks to the Chinese paper, it concerns me that he sees the United States as villain, and the rest of the world as victims. That's a troubling mindset for an American with access to confidential government information to have. The US government isn't an angel, but they are also not worse than the Chinese government, or the Israeli government, or the French government, or the North Korean government. Governments spy on each other, governments spy on banks, governments spy on scientists. Governments spy on their own citizens.
Perhaps I'm naive, and the American government is the biggest, baddest bully on the block. Even so, as a fellow American, I'd think about my fellow Americans, the American people, who are not evil, before giving American government secrets to other governments.
So I applaud some of his actions, and condemn others. Snowden is a real person, not a piece of fiction. He's capable of good and evil, he's capable of being brilliant and stupid at the same time, he's capable of being loyal to the United States and betraying the United States. Because he's following his own narrative. A narrative that the rest of the world is still trying to figure out.
So your solution is to embolden our enemy countries to make them a bigger threat?
Did I say that? All I know is I am busting my ass to pay Obama taxes so you can eat on my dime. I am a conservative so I have already been deemed the enemy by this administration.
All you have done is embolden Obama. It's his administration that is abusing power.
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