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Old 06-12-2013, 06:57 PM
 
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If its such a need, how did women survive before bc came along?
survive? Mortality rates amongst women who sought back-alley abortions from unscrupulous doctors was at an all time high.

those unwed teenagers who got pregnant? hidden away from society and shamed by their family.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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survive? Mortality rates amongst women who sought back-alley abortions from unscrupulous doctors was at an all time high.

those unwed teenagers who got pregnant? hidden away from society and shamed by their family.
I guess responsibility would be too hard to teach huh?

Condoms too cost prohibitive too?
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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survive? Mortality rates amongst women who sought back-alley abortions from unscrupulous doctors was at an all time high.

those unwed teenagers who got pregnant? hidden away from society and shamed by their family.
"Abortion is no longer a dangerous procedure. This applies not just to therapeutic abortions as performed in hospitals but also to so-called illegal abortions as done by physician. In 1957 there were only 260 deaths in the whole country attributed to abortions of any kind…Second, and even more important, the conference estimated that 90 percent of all illegal abortions are presently being done by physicians…Whatever trouble arises usually arises from self-induced abortions, which comprise approximately 8 percent, or with the very small percentage that go to some kind of non-medical abortionist…So remember…abortion, whether therapeutic or illegal, is in the main no longer dangerous, because it is being done well by physicians."

Mary Calderone Director of Planned Parenthood 1960.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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I guess responsibility would be too hard to teach huh?

Condoms too cost prohibitive too?
Teaching responsible sex education and at the same time not calling single pregnant women sluts and whores would probably be a good start.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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More LSD (liberal/socialist democrat) crying.

Nothing new.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Kinda like the way Obama forced Obamacare on us, huh?
Well, not quite.

When you have to take off your pants, spread your legs and have some stranger insert a wand into your vagina all to please some knuckle dragging right wing politician - THEN we can talk.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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"Abortion is no longer a dangerous procedure. This applies not just to therapeutic abortions as performed in hospitals but also to so-called illegal abortions as done by physician. In 1957 there were only 260 deaths in the whole country attributed to abortions of any kind…Second, and even more important, the conference estimated that 90 percent of all illegal abortions are presently being done by physicians…Whatever trouble arises usually arises from self-induced abortions, which comprise approximately 8 percent, or with the very small percentage that go to some kind of non-medical abortionist…So remember…abortion, whether therapeutic or illegal, is in the main no longer dangerous, because it is being done well by physicians."

Mary Calderone Director of Planned Parenthood 1960.
That applies to the females brave enough to enter a clinic. It's more difficult for most.

Self-induced abortion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The practice of self-induced abortion by various means has long been recorded in the United States. Turn-of-the-20th-century birth control advocate Margaret Sanger wrote in her autobiography of a 1912 incident in which she was summoned to treat a woman who had nearly died from such an attempt.[SIZE=2][13][/SIZE]
A study concluded in 1968[SIZE=2][14][/SIZE] determined that over 1.2 million illegal abortions were performed every year in the United States, a portion of which were performed by women acting alone. The study suggested that the number of women dying as a result of self-induced abortions exceeded those resulting from abortions performed by another person. A 1979 study noted that many women who required hospitalization following self-induced abortion attempts were admitted under the pretext of having had a miscarriage or spontaneous abortion"
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:11 PM
 
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That applies to the females brave enough to enter a clinic. It's more difficult for most.
No, she covers all abortions.

Read it again.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:00 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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If its such a need, how did women survive before bc came along?
Oh, I don't know - maybe by having a baby every year until their bodies wore out and they died in childbirth at the age of 30.

Or maybe you think an aspirin between the knees really does work.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Since for years women were lied to that there was nothing there but a blob of tissue I can understand an argument that women should not be mislead that way but simple facts should suffice.
Not really looking like a baby that early. I am not sure what the point is.

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