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Old 06-16-2013, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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RTW is freedom of association. It should be the law in all 50 states. If your unions didn't stink, they would thrive anyway..instead they are becoming microscopic in size.
Then please always exercise your right to not be associated as a worker in a unionized workplace. Then it doesn't matter if you work in a right to work state, or not, as difficult as it is to run into a unionized workplace.

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Old 06-16-2013, 01:50 AM
 
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Your point is why right to work has been so slow to spread to the other states since Okalahoma voted it down in 1964. Surely, a lot of companies don't want to bring right to work in and make the unions work harder to convince workers to give them money. The main purpose for bringing right to work to a state is not to try to keep unions out. Rather it is to weaken and eventually throw out well established unions who have been around in plants for many years.
Is Oklahoma not a RTW state?

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Old 06-16-2013, 01:53 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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RTW is excellent. It allows people the choice to join or not join a union. The union never hired them, an employer did. So they should be free to decide on any 3rd party relationship at any time.
So to listen you, labor unions severely need to figure out to represent all workers free of charge. Maybe there is such a thing as arbitrators who work for free.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Is Oklahoma not a RTW state?
Only since 2001 when it voted to adopt right to work. Back in 1964, though, Oklahoma voted not to accept right to work and so brought to a halt the momentum right to work once had in spreading to the states since the 1940s. Only in recent years has right to work been trying to make a comeback, mostly as a way to weaken or get rid of government labor unions.

Adopting right to work has done Oklahoma very little good. Not even the GM plant wanted to stay in Okahoma after right to work was passed. It's good economy is due to the energy industry doing well, not right to work. While a number of major oil companies moved out of Oklahoma in favor of Houston after right to work passed, smaller ones, like Devon and Chesapeake, stayed and prospered.

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Old 06-16-2013, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Can you please condense these post together? It's a headache to see multiple posts by one poster take over an entire page.
Oh, please, if you got something highly intelligent and informative to add, then please, by all means, put me on IGNORE.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:28 AM
 
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Oh, please, if you got something highly intelligent and informative to add, then please, by all means, put me on IGNORE.
You okay? You seem to be on a war-path here, I'm only making a suggestion that could benefit both you and I. You could get a infraction because of this, or you could have all the work you put into those posts deleted. I don't ignore anyone here, I appreciate any and everyone's input including yours but the manor in which you present it is going to lead to many people ignoring your work.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Unions shot themselves in the foot when the spent the 60s 70s and 80s killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
Would you have expected American NON unionized workers during the 60s to 80s to take a pay cut in response to all the cheap stuff Japan was sending to this country, such as steel?
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:33 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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You okay? You seem to be on a war-path here, I'm only making a suggestion that could benefit both you and I. You could get a infraction because of this, or you could have all the work you put into those posts deleted. I don't ignore anyone here, I appreciate any and everyone's input including yours but the manor in which you present it is going to lead to many people ignoring your work.
I'm on no warpath. I'm merely respecting as well as reminding people of the right to put people on ignore whose contributions they don't like, or agree with.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I am quite sure I am on dozens of peoples ignore list here... LOL
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You're showing your ignorance, because it's been a fact ever since the 1940s that it's against the law to first be required to join a labor union as a condition for securing a job.

Not in Michigan.
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