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Old 06-23-2013, 10:27 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
The sole and only purpose of this bill is to illegitimately redefine by statute what the Constitution means by "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" for the sole purpose of denying citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants born on US soil.
Why should criminals be rewarded when others have to go through the lengthy and expensive legal naturalization process?

This condition allows the children of only one legal immigrant parent to acquire birthright citizenship even before the parent completes the naturalization process:

‘(2) an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States whose residence is in the United States
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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648 posts and still going strong with no consensus reached over Cruz being eligible or not?
the sane people know he is elgible and various sources have said he is.

Only morons like birthers think he isn't, but since they are only .0001% of the US population, it doesn't matter.

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This has got to be a record for a troll post thread on here.
we've had longer threads on CD . But it's fun to watch birthers contradict themselves, like IC does (seeing as he/she thinks you have to be born of Chinese parents in order to be NBC)
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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we've had longer threads on CD . But it's fun to watch birthers contradict themselves, like IC does (seeing as he/she thinks you have to be born of Chinese parents in order to be NBC)
Classic anus!

On the playground, it's heinous anus.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:19 AM
 
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Does Nonarchist not remember that he is on ignore?
Sorry, I keep forgetting.

Please ignore this apology.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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But it's fun to watch birthers contradict themselves, like IC does (seeing as he/she thinks you have to be born of Chinese parents in order to be NBC)
The only people asserting ridiculous contradictions are you and your ilk.

Gray's own words:

The evident intention, and ***the necessary effect***, of the submission of this case to the *decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties* were to *present for determination ***the single question*** stated at the beginning of this opinion, *namely*, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but *have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States*, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative"


Question asked and answered. Look it up. Gray knew. Why don't you?
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Actually, SCOTUS believes that.
Since that would literally be insane, I think we again have to acknowledge that no one has ever been able to actually plumb the depths of your ignorance and delusion.

You appear to have no bottom.


Informed Consent believes that unless your parents were Chinese, you cannot be born a citizen of the United States. Worse... she believes that the Supreme COurt of the United States believes that!!!


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Old 06-23-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Where in the Constitution
does it say that?Cite the exact words.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why should criminals be rewarded when others have to go through the lengthy and expensive legal naturalization process?
Infants born on US soil are not criminals since they have committed no crime.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Miami, Florida
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Ted Cruz is a interesting bloke, born in Canada so a Canadian subject of the Queen of Canada. So does Cruz have the right to become US president when he was born in and owes his loyalty to her majesty and Canada ?
McCain is a Panamian born latino who was a presidential candidate.

If he was able to be a candidate, anyone can, lol.
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:29 PM
 
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McCain is a Panamian born latino who was a presidential candidate.

If he was able to be a candidate, anyone can, lol.
At least McCain was half-acidly vetted by Congress.
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