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Old 06-19-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Pa
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You didn't comprehend one thing I just said about how it's completely hypocritical to complain about waste in The School District yet ignore wasteful endeavors like building Billions of dollars worth of Prisons, spending $17 Billion each year fighting a plant that has never harmed a human, spending Trillions in the Middle East blowing up things and rebuilding them, having tax-payer money be manipulated by monopilistic "Too big to Fail" Banks and even the Federal Reserve printing Trillions in US Dollars via quantitive easing that not only creates money out of thin air but funnels it directly to the 1%.

There is money and there is waste all over, but education is simply not a priority and people like you prove it everyday.
1 has very little to do with the other. It would be true if every city, every school district in PA were facing what you say Phili is facing. But the fact is that it is localized. My sense is that the state could double what it pays to Phili and still end up screwed.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:55 AM
 
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I find it unusual that people (mostly liberals) think that school closures = kids don't go to school anymore... or that kids going to this particular non-achieving school is going to make them more successful for no reason at all... excuse me, but I am not that stupid...
This is not about school closures. It is accepted that the schools that needed closing have been closed.

This is about the laying off of every single staff member except for the principal and teachers, in every public school in the city. It effects all the schools, not just the under achieving.

And I'm sorry, but the school and it's staff and counselors certainly influence kids - especially those in poor neighborhoods who's parents don't know the process of college admission etc - and their ability to be successful. They give guidance where none would be otherwise.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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If there is no money, what can you do? People need to start rioting down at the school head quarters.


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This is not about school closures. It is accepted that the schools that needed closing have been closed.

This is about the laying off of every single staff member except for the principal and teachers, in every public school in the city. It effects all the schools, not just the under achieving.

And I'm sorry, but the school and it's staff and counselors certainly influence kids - especially those in poor neighborhoods who's parents don't know the process of college admission etc - and their ability to be successful. They give guidance where none would be otherwise.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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1 has very little to do with the other. It would be true if every city, every school district in PA were facing what you say Phili is facing. But the fact is that it is localized. My sense is that the state could double what it pays to Phili and still end up screwed.
This is not a localized phenom! There is a trend all over the country to dismantle our public education system and privatize it so a few can profit from the lucrative collusion of the Govt/Corporate sector. This collusion has occured in nearly eveything else from Banking to Healthcare to Agriculture to Prisons to War, so it comes as no surprise that Education is next.

New Orleans, Chicago, NYC, Philly are just the first districts to be sacrificed.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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yep and those cities are cess pools to begin with because of the democratic status quo.
Education probably would be better off if some of it were privatized. You seem to be of the opinion that government has the answers to everyones problems. Socialized government education is failing our children not just because of lack of money but because corrupt polticians, unions and special interests. And the same people crying over this want our healthcare controlled by the government. go figure.


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This is not a localized phenom! There is a trend all over the country to dismantle our public education system and privatize it so a few can profit from the lucrative collusion of the Govt/Corporate sector. This collusion has occured in nearly eveything else from Banking to Healthcare to Agriculture to Prisons to War, so it comes as no surprise that Education is next.

New Orleans, Chicago, NYC, Philly are just the first districts to be sacrificed.
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:09 AM
 
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If there is no money, what can you do? People need to start rioting down at the school head quarters.
Or going on hunger strikes, perhaps?
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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and what is that going to prove? Is it going to be Corbetts fault if people kill themselves from starvation now?


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Or going on hunger strikes, perhaps?
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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This is not a localized phenom! There is a trend all over the country to dismantle our public education system and privatize it so a few can profit from the lucrative collusion of the Govt/Corporate sector. This collusion has occured in nearly eveything else from Banking to Healthcare to Agriculture to Prisons to War, so it comes as no surprise that Education is next.

New Orleans, Chicago, NYC, Philly are just the first districts to be sacrificed.
The federal government has no Constitutional authorization to be involved in education.

You do realize that dont you?
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The federal government has no Constitutional authorization to be involved in education.

You do realize that dont you?

I wasn't aware that our Federal Government still followed the Constitution.

It also has no authorization to implement a Central Bank, collect income tax, wage a war without Congressional approval, spy on citizens without warrant or outlaw a plant. Your point?
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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and what is that going to prove? Is it going to be Corbetts fault if people kill themselves from starvation now?


That is all.
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