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Old 06-18-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Somehow I get a feeling they still have a long way to go given the fact that they still have a large percentage of people living in poverty and no access to any kind of care
I doubt those were the people protesting though.

The Brazilian government provides free HIV drugs to those with the disease. They are generic brands though I think. I remember big controversy over that some years ago because drug makers were pissed off, but the Brazilian government sided with its sick people.

Also, my understanding is that a few years ago Brazil passed a bill where the government will finance any transsexuals transition to the opposite sex.

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In 1999 to 2012, 66% of the country's 7,806 hospitals, 70% of its 485,000 hospital beds, and 87% of its 723 specialized hospitals belonged to the private sector. In the area of diagnostic support and therapy, 95% of the 7,318 establishments were also private. 73% of the 41,000 ambulatory care facilities were operated by the public. Hospital beds in the public sector were distributed as follows: surgery (21%), clinical medicine (30%), pediatrics (17%), obstetrics (14%), psychiatry (11%) and other areas (7%). In the same year, 43% of public hospital beds, and half the hospital admissions were in municipal establishments. Since 1999, the Ministry of Public Health has been carrying out a health surveillance project in Amazonia that includes epidemiological and environmental health surveillance, indigenous health and disease control components. With US 600 million dollars from a World Bank loan, efforts are being made to improve the operational infrastructure, training of human resources and research studies. An estimated 25% of the population is covered by at least one form of health insurance; 75% of the insurance plans are offered by commercial operators and companies with self-managed plans.
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Brazil Government Will Use Taxpayer Dollars for Sex Change Operations

BRASILIA, August 22, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com)—The Brazilian Ministry of Health has announced that the government will begin to provide free sex-change operations to the public, in compliance with a government initiated court order.

The decision, rendered by Brazil’s Fourth Regional Federal Court, decreed that sex-change operations are a "right" covered by Brazil’s constitution, which guarantees "health care" to all citizens.

The approval of free sex change operations was largely a staged event by the socialist administration of Luiz Lula, who has been Brazil’s president since 2003. The administration essentially sued itself, using the Public Ministry (Brazil’s federal agency for prosecutions) to litigate the case against the administration’s Ministry of Health. The Fourth Regional Federal Court, also an entity of the national government, agreed unanimously to designate the operations as a "constitutional right".
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The only restrictions are that the candidate for the surgery must be over twenty-one years of age and undergo two years of psychological evaluation. The approval for the surgery will be made by regional and local secretaries of health.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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They do. That's why they are part of BRIC.
They are an emerging country.

Like India and China there is stark difference.
There are the well educated ones that have jobs with the multi-nationals that have built down there.
Brazil is a high tech center for many of the multi-nationals.
They are evolving. The middle class is just coming into a position of power as their numbers grow.
They have free health care. That includes the poor. But somehow I get the feeling you think most the medical facilities in Brazil look like some facility you might find in civil war torn Liberia?

You have some world class plastic surgeons living and working in Brazil. And Rio has a thriving cosmetic surgery industry.

Certain parts of the nation will have little to no access to convenient medical care though. Like in various parts of the Amazon. But in the bigger cities with the middle-classes they should have decent medical facilities.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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We're not talking about the poor. These are the emerging middle class who are now paying more taxes and not seeing any results.

This is about the takers becoming givers and finally waking up.
Brazil doesn't function like the US, and yes you are talking about the poor as well as those who are starting to make more money. From the comments in here, it sounds like a lot of you don't know anything about Brazil.

Do you honestly think the poor in Brazil sit around collecting their government checks?
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They have free health care. That includes the poor. But somehow I get the feeling you think most the medical facilities in Brazil look like some facility you might find in civil war torn Liberia?

You have some world class plastic surgeons living and working in Brazil. And Rio has a thriving cosmetic surgery industry.

Certain parts of the nation will have little to no access to convenient medical care though. Like in various parts of the Amazon. But in the bigger cities with the middle-classes they should have decent medical facilities.
No I don't think that. But Brazil is not like the US.
I equate Brazil more with India, another BRIC.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Brazil doesn't function like the US, and yes you are talking about the poor as well as those who are starting to make more money. From the comments in here, it sounds like a lot of you don't know anything about Brazil.

Do you honestly think the poor in Brazil sit around collecting their government checks?
The protesters are protesting, among other things, a rise in taxes with no results in better services.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Perfect educational example.

When you pay taxes you want a say in what happens with that money that was taken from you.
When you don't pay taxes, you want what was taken from others and don't care about much else.
When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Pauls cooperation.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The protesters are protesting, among other things, a rise in taxes with no results in better services.
And rightfully so, there is corruption at every level in that country, I can see why the people of Brazil would be upset with these two events sucking up all the funding for other services, all while destroying an entire neighborhood and displacing the people that lived there.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Usually Peter is robbing the myriad Pauls with various market destroying monopolies and is really upset when the Paul's want something back.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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No I don't think that. But Brazil is not like the US.
I equate Brazil more with India, another BRIC.
Well... I have to take that back. Even in their cities some of the public (not private I guess) hospitals are busted it up. Horrible.


Brazilian Hospitals In Poor Health (France 24) - YouTube

The irony is how many Brazilians get plastic surgery.


BRAZILIAN DOLLAR BODY (SHORT DOCUMENTARY) - YouTube


Making Brazil Beautiful - YouTube
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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my understanding is that a few years ago Brazil passed a bill where the government will finance any transsexuals transition to the opposite sex.
I think we are beginning to see the reasons for the outrage with more clarity now. I'd be protesting too.
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