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Old 06-18-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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I have that very same decision to make. It's hard.
yes it is. i occasionally second-guess my own decision...
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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Most aren't making enough to pay their bills and wondering "Is this supposed to be life??"


I enjoy what I ventured out to do. But it still bothers me to see other good people struggle and be unhappy.


You "ventured", as in made a conscience effort to obtain a field of employment to which you find appealing and rewarding.

Those who work crap jobs they hate, do so because they settle for such.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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I don't think this is anything new. Fred Flintstone and George Jetson complained about their jobs all the time.

Yes, these were cartoons but they were representative of the times.

huh? that is absurd. fred flintstone lived during the jurassic period. george jetson has yet to be born.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:40 PM
 
Location: USA
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You "ventured", as in made a conscience effort to obtain a field of employment to which you find appealing and rewarding.

Those who work crap jobs they hate, do so because they settle for such.
I took a huge financial risk to start a business and become self employed. I worked my ass off, sacrificed, and completely left my comfort zone in order to make it happen. Even went hungry at a point.

To be quite honest, after what I had to do to make a living, it upsets me when some are arrogant about their job title when they didn't start the business or do anything out of the ordinary to earn the position. Starting a business is one of the hardest things I've done and if you start at the bottom, you work for free a lot in the beginning and have to make huge financial sacrifices.

With that said, I support fair wages and a good work environment. I do believe we have "corporate culture" issues in this country and serious wage issues.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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It's too bad, I think most any job can be enjoyable (it's less about the work, and more about the work environment - treated fairly, good pay, good coworkers, etc).

Unfortunately, it seems to be at the point where businesses for the most part are more interested in grinding a worker to the greatest extent possible - unless you have in demand skills, most workers are as easily replaced as a computer, and therefore businesses don't care.

Which is bad, I've read about how well Costco treats its employees, and the company is doing great - they believe that happy employees are more loyal and hard working - I tend to agree... And besides, it's just the right thing to do.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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Same type complain of boredom on one job then stress on a job that isn't.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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It's too bad, I think most any job can be enjoyable (it's less about the work, and more about the work environment - treated fairly, good pay, good coworkers, etc).

Unfortunately, it seems to be at the point where businesses for the most part are more interested in grinding a worker to the greatest extent possible - unless you have in demand skills, most workers are as easily replaced as a computer, and therefore businesses don't care.

Which is bad, I've read about how well Costco treats its employees, and the company is doing great - they believe that happy employees are more loyal and hard working - I tend to agree... And besides, it's just the right thing to do.
You've read correctly. I've known some of the workers at Costco. They're not complaining.

That company has a great business model going.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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I think that being able to make decisions about work and being self regulated leads to more job satisfaction. Too many jobs today are subject to micro-management, and therefore...low satisfaction.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: USA
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It's too bad, I think most any job can be enjoyable (it's less about the work, and more about the work environment - treated fairly, good pay, good coworkers, etc).

Unfortunately, it seems to be at the point where businesses for the most part are more interested in grinding a worker to the greatest extent possible - unless you have in demand skills, most workers are as easily replaced as a computer, and therefore businesses don't care.

Which is bad, I've read about how well Costco treats its employees, and the company is doing great - they believe that happy employees are more loyal and hard working - I tend to agree... And besides, it's just the right thing to do.
Great point.

What you described is the big shift I hope we're headed in. We've gotta do better business. It can't be ALL about the bottom line.

I pay my customers' share of the state sales tax. It comes out of MY pay. I do it because I wanted to provide quality affordable meals. I take pride in treating my customers great and looking after my help both financially and emotionally when I can. I treat them like family.



There's multiple things wrong with our business culture IMO.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I love my job. I work in IT, I love computers. I work with computers all day, come home, and play on computers. Pay me to play with computers all day? Sure!

I also have a great employer, great benefits, , great pay, vacation, holidays, sick time, short and long term disability, health, dental, vision, and life insurance, AND.... I get all the coffee I can drink!
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