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Old 06-19-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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ummm.... they do that in socialist countries and it really doesn't work. Why should anyone be motivated to do their best if that was the case?


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We need complete, government mandated income equality. The dishwasher at McDonalds should make the same thing as a heart surgeon. That will solve all our problems.

 
Old 06-19-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: USA
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I will respond after I get done working.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 01:24 PM
 
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Apparently corporate America and our government didn't get the message.



I don't care if I'm alone on the issue. We need Occupy back or some form of mass protests in this country addressing the issues of income inequality, wage stagnation, and corporate greed.


The Economy is STILL the most important issue in this country and we're currently doing nothing to fix it.



I'd like to start back up the discussion.
Instead of standing around whining, get a job on wall street or corporate america and work to be a decent person in those companies. Occupy did absolutely nothing except give people who didn't want to work to affect any real change a sense that they 'did something'. We need more people to get into corporate america and change the (very, very few) problems that exist from the inside. Additionally, corporate america didn't get the message because it was too busy working to give you the goods, services, and products you depend on every day of your lives, despite being hated for it. Standing around rebelling is very often nothing but the easy way out.

Also, as someone else pointed out, OWS would call you the part of the problem since you are only hiring part time (and thus avoiding providing benefits). They ignore the fact that you created two new jobs, just as you ignore the fact that corporate america and wall street creates hundreds of thousands of jobs.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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It has to be organized events well control to avoid the stigma that occupy got shortly after start that be a mass of people attending a 60's type happening. They came; they saw;they trashed and then they left.
Yes Tex.
Any uprising will have to appeal to the mainstream.
Neither the Tea party nor OWS were smart enough to embrace all viewpoints.

Whether one holds conservative ,progressive, liberal, libertarian (etc..) viewpoints should not preclude them from wanting to root out a culture of corruption and cronyism in big business/ Government.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 01:52 PM
 
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Yes Tex.
Any uprising will have to appeal to the mainstream.
Neither the Tea party nor OWS were smart enough to embrace all viewpoints.

Whether one holds conservative ,progressive, liberal, libertarian (etc..) viewpoints should not preclude them from wanting to root out a culture of corruption and cronyism in big business/ Government.
OWS biggest problem was that they completely lost control of their "brand" due to the open nature of their protest. They had anarchists, a-political partiers, mooching homeless people and any nutjob wandering the streets with a sandwich board sign complaining about alien mind control or whatever.

The Teaparty would have a rally and then go home. Now sure, they had a scattering of nuts too....but they weren't an open to anybody tent city.

OWS had a lot of great points, thier control and distribution though was abysmal.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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We need complete, government mandated income equality. The dishwasher at McDonalds should make the same thing as a heart surgeon. That will solve all our problems.
No, it won't. People would be lining up around the block to get those cushy 9-5 dish washing jobs at the Mickey Ds. Who the heck would want to be a surgeon with the crappy on call hours and 18 hour stressful days? No one.

And if we're going equality all the way, would the unemployed get the same money as the dish washer and the surgeon? If so, many would manage to become unemployed and have a lot more free time to lay around and watch TV. Yeah, your plan sounds very practical and there is clearly no downside.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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No, it won't. People would be lining up around the block to get those cushy 9-5 dish washing jobs at the Mickey Ds. Who the heck would want to be a surgeon with the crappy on call hours and 18 hour stressful days? No one.
Its called sarcasm. Surely you didn't think he was being serious?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Occupy was inspirational, I think that working through progressive organizations like the Democratic Party, Green Party, etc more will be accomplished to combat income inequality and poverty. We need to get more progressives elected.
Occupy's "inspiration" fell flat because they offered nothing but complaints.

I get inspired by brilliance, intellect, and actionable ideas. Complaints without solutions however don't inspire me at all.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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Occupy's "inspiration" fell flat because they offered nothing but complaints.

I get inspired by brilliance, intellect, and actionable ideas. Complaints without solutions however don't inspire me at all.
My rule at work is that you aren't allowed to complain to me if you don't have plans for two viable solutions to solving your complaint. You come to me with a problem without two alternatives? You are free to leave my office and come back when you are prepared.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 02:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Gtownoe View Post
Apparently corporate America and our government didn't get the message.



I don't care if I'm alone on the issue. We need Occupy back or some form of mass protests in this country addressing the issues of income inequality, wage stagnation, and corporate greed.


The Economy is STILL the most important issue in this country and we're currently doing nothing to fix it.



I'd like to start back up the discussion.
Occupy? Really? They are worthless, disorganized, lack any conviction to a tangible belief or solution and honestly... are part of the friggin problem.

The basic foundations of what the Tea Party stood for was what we needed, but all the sheepish morons laughed, pointed fingers, and condemned them by appealing to political manipulation.

Honestly, I don't care anymore. People don't want liberty? They don't want to live with individual responsibility? Self sufficiency? Well... fine... suffer the consequences. Suck it up, lick the boots of those masters.
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