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Old 06-19-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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Why aren't the Occupiers down in Washington DC protesting the IRS along with the Tea Partiers?

Thousands rally as tea party groups stage major IRS protest outside Capitol

 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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Instead of standing around whining, get a job on wall street or corporate america and work to be a decent person in those companies. Occupy did absolutely nothing except give people who didn't want to work to affect any real change a sense that they 'did something'. We need more people to get into corporate america and change the (very, very few) problems that exist from the inside. Additionally, corporate america didn't get the message because it was too busy working to give you the goods, services, and products you depend on every day of your lives, despite being hated for it. Standing around rebelling is very often nothing but the easy way out.

Also, as someone else pointed out, OWS would call you the part of the problem since you are only hiring part time (and thus avoiding providing benefits). They ignore the fact that you created two new jobs, just as you ignore the fact that corporate america and wall street creates hundreds of thousands of jobs.
How the hell would that solve ANYTHING??

I had a job on Wall St. I own corporations (LLC's)


How about you quit leeching off the business class. Your industry is a big part of why we're in the financial crisis we're in.



Your obviously only concerned about yourself. Figures.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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Why aren't the Occupiers down in Washington DC protesting the IRS along with the Tea Partiers?

Thousands rally as tea party groups stage major IRS protest outside Capitol
Why does it have to be 1 against the other??? Can you not support both? Can you not support certain causes within each group??
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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The problem is not primarily in the business community. They have a right to make a profit, just like your friend's in the TV and movie industries. The problem is the burden of a bloated and intrusive government.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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We need complete, government mandated income equality. The dishwasher at McDonalds should make the same thing as a heart surgeon. That will solve all our problems.
We don't even have enough jobs in this country for our population. Are you creating jobs?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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You know... I really expect MORE from you, so this thread seriously disheartens me.

1. Income inequality? How do you get income equality between a neurosurgeon and someone making french fries? I mean REALLY? Do you REALLY need this concept of "job a" does not equal "job b" explained to you?

2. Wage stagnation? While you may view company or corporate profits going up, the truth is so is the cost of everything. That said, a HIGHER NUMBER on the company or corporate profit statement does NOT mean they made more profit when you adjust for actual inflation, including food and energy.

3. Name a single corporation, company or individual (excluding charities) that is NOT out to make a profit. Everyone is in business for their own selfish reasons. Among the reasons, and high on the list of reasons, is to MAKE MONEY.


Finally... for folks like you who appear upset with corporations based upon "crony capitalism", tell me something... Is there any corporation that has the power to pass laws, regulations or rent seeking rules in any manner? Isn't it true that no one has this power EXCEPT politicians? So... Is the problem due to corporations seeking these rent seeking legislation and regulations, or is the problem due to politicians seeking a hand-out from corporations, lining their own re-election war chests, or outright pocketing the money? Who has the power?


Maybe a little reality is what you really need to seek, rather than looking for the utopian, pie in the sky BS you've been spoon fed by a bunch of anti-capitalism idiots.

You have no credibility with me. I'm not even gonna respond to your straw man.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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The problem is not primarily in the business community. They have a right to make a profit, just like your friend's in the TV and movie industries. The problem is the burden of a bloated and intrusive government.
I think its both. Both are a problem.


I'd say the problem isn't with small to mid size businesses, its with huge conglomerates who have little interest in their business ventures and even less interest in the communities they operate in. They're only purpose is profit.




Then they skip out on taxes and off-shore their money.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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ummm.... they do that in socialist countries and it really doesn't work. Why should anyone be motivated to do their best if that was the case?
Do you have any examples???


Who's talking about Socialism? Do you think we have free market capitalism in the US???
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:14 PM
 
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Why does it have to be 1 against the other??? Can you not support both? Can you not support certain causes within each group??
No, because Occupy is a joke.

One side wants liberty, freedom from government dictation and control, limited government and taxation.

The other? It wants 20-30 an hour minimum wage, more handouts from the government, free services, etc...

Now both can get upset about "corporate control", but aside from that, they are polar opposites.


The point is, everything Occupy wants is against liberty, against freedom, against individual responsibility.

There is no common ground. In fact, if it weren't for the corruption of government through corporate influence, they would be completely happy with the dictations and infringements of freedom from the government, providing they "get" the handouts they are looking for. They aren't mad at the corruption itself, they are mad that the corruption isn't benefiting them! That makes them just as bad as the corporations using government for their own ends. They are essentially no different than the corporations. Why would anyone who supports liberty, freedom, and individual responsibility support them? They are the problem.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Did you make this decision before or after the "rape' tent was set up during their protest?
There is a lot of corporate welfare, you're right.
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