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Old 06-19-2013, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Do you have any examples???


Who's talking about Socialism? Do you think we have free market capitalism in the US???
I had to get my porta-potty guy to help me sift through all the usual rightie-refuse in this thread, but I'm glad you brought up Occupy as I have been thinking about the movement lately. There has been a series in the NY TImes about income inequality that's been interesting to read. It's called 'The Great Divide'

Schooling Ourselves in an Unequal America - NYTimes.com

 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:24 PM
 
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what is occupy?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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I had to get my porta-potty guy to help me sift through all the usual rightie-refuse in this thread, but I'm glad you brought up Occupy as I have been thinking about the movement lately. There has been a series in the NY TImes about income inequality that's been interesting to read. It's called 'The Great Divide'

Schooling Ourselves in an Unequal America - NYTimes.com
the new york times? why do you read tabloids from foreign countries?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Apparently corporate America and our government didn't get the message.

I don't care if I'm alone on the issue. We need Occupy back or some form of mass protests in this country addressing the issues of income inequality, wage stagnation, and corporate greed.

The Economy is STILL the most important issue in this country and we're currently doing nothing to fix it.

I'd like to start back up the discussion.
It's not that Occupy wasn't a valid movement or that they didn't have a point. They were and they did. But the entire movement lacked one critical element: Therefore what?

Fine and good to rant and rave about the ills of society. There are many many of them. But Occupy didn't really have a coherent answer beyond complaining. Anybody can whine and complain about what's wrong in the world. The thing that makes a grass-roots movement truly powerful is when they start coming up with solutions. If you offer no solutions, you're just part of the problem. If somebody does fire up Occupy again, I hope they make it a solution-oriented movement. I don't know that there was any message behind the movement other than, "It's not fair."

If your parents failed to tell you that life ain't fair, they did you a great disservice.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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My favorite part of the Occupy discrediting via the mainstream media?

Foxnews et al actually convinced poor, aging christian conservatives- ie ignorant people who have children w/ no future, people who would most benefit from an undercutting of corporate fascism- that occupy was some laughable hippie movement. They picked out the craziest folks from the crowds and put a spotlight on them to belittle the cause.

And of course, being dumb and ignorant, it worked.

You see poor/lower middle class folks with no future beyond blue collar work at best mocking the very cause that could change the future of their childrens' lives forever.


It's a sad circle.
Blue collar working people are better than trashy welfare freeloaders who cost as much as the corporate banksters to support. Look at how the Tea party left its rally,clean and void of human waste and trash unlike the freaky looking wallstreet slums.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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the new york times? why do you read tabloids from foreign countries?
Why do you go off your meds? Why do you reply with some BS? Why why why?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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Blue collar working people are better than trashy welfare freeloaders who cost as much as the corporate banksters to support. Look at how the Tea party left its rally,clean and void of human waste and trash unlike the freaky looking wallstreet slums.
It's not about better or worse.

I have a certain admiration for the working man, naive as he is.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I'm so greedy I keep prices low, pay my employees good wages, and pay my customer's sales tax to keep prices low. I'm hiring 2 additional part time employees this week.


I care about more than just myself obviously.


What point were you making again? Do you have anything to contribute to the thread?
Why not 1 FT employee?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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It will not be Occupy. It will not be the TEA party (Palin and Bachmann's tea party) - who ironically augmented the problems within the establishment.

It will happen when 90% of Americans are wounded enough to warrent a revolution of sorts.
Right now there is still too much complacency in the middle class.

Sad to say but most of the Tea Party were seniors,their kids and grandkids were possiblt at the wallstreet protest.This is what happens when kids grow up without dicipline and hard work. Even worse is they are helping to destroy their own future.

I agre wallstreet needs to be stopped but who is left to do so? Not a unclean bunch like those who protested.I went to one of the protest,what a bunch of bums.Even theri dogs were nuts,one of their german shepards jumped on my old hound dog who was leashed.It took the sorry pot head 5min.s to move and retrive his wild animal who probably had more training than him.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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It's not about better or worse.

I have a certain admirable for the working man, naive as he is.

The whole nation is naive,look who you libs put in office.A real money loving radical and his globetrotting tax robbing wife.

Show me a banker who lives it up anymore than these two.Wonder what kind of takes they get for all the warmongering from their military complex? Talk about conservatives blue collar workers in comparison they are perfect.
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