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WTF. Pardon my French. This makes me extremely angry. After reading this, I dont know what to do but to just to post this on CD forum.
Please read it. I want people to know what Goodwill has done to these people.
WTF. Pardon my French. This makes me extremely angry. After reading this, I dont know what to do but to just to post this on CD forum.
Please read it. I want people to know what Goodwill has done to these people.
Does anybody any suggestion how regular people like us can help in this situation?
Yes, make your opinion known to these non-profits and the businesses that take on employees who will be paid below minimum wage. If enough publicity is made and there is sufficient public shaming, it will change.
As someone who knows the retail industry, it stinks from head to tail for most workers, and that goes for businesses well beyond the popular target, Walmart.
WTF. Pardon my French. This makes me extremely angry. After reading this, I dont know what to do but to just to post this on CD forum.
Please read it. I want people to know what Goodwill has done to these people.
His wages have risen and fallen based on "time studies," the method nonprofits use to calculate the salaries of Section 14 (c) workers. Staff members use a stopwatch to determine how long it takes a disabled worker to complete a task. That time is compared with how long it would take a person without a disability to do the same task. The nonprofit then uses a formula to calculate a salary, which may be equal to or less than minimum wage. The tests are repeated every six months.
Working is good for people, that is one of the reasons I have an issue with some of our current unemployment and disability trends. On one hand you can't expect businesses to hire those can't do a full job for a full wage, but on the other, it is inexcusable to pay pennies on the hour. There needs to be a special minimum wage for this. I am surprised ADA hasn't resolved some of this.
asiandude you and any outraged others....
did you read the entire article.....can you understand the concept and the benefits to the program?
Do you realize these workers aren't being forced to into this....as is shown by the woman that quit?
Do you want to hire them at full wage? Will anybody?......... unless they can use this experience as a stepping stone to regular employment
I have to wander tho if its offset by payments they get otherwise other workers do not get. I really doubt its good to have disabled put into non-working like they were in past so often. that a few at the top is like saying we have a few at top of government making much more to handle the people business compared to many of their workers. The purpose was to get handicapped out of the shut in society and they are not forced to do it. Volunteers are actually paid nothing in these same non-profits but they also are not forced. The same can be said of those at top of even the American red cross.
Thanks. I am going to see to whom I can write and complain about.
Write to your representative in Washington D.C.
It was an interesting article, indeed.
I will note that the cases I have seen (which have been few at my level, since these people usually get on disability pretty fast after they file) the Goodwill worker is generally is so disabled that he or she actually lives at home with parents or other caregiver, and that the Goodwill pay is not really for the purpose of 'providing a living' but helping the worker gain self esteem, as well as simply working with like people (fellowship, if you will).
However, the article opened my eyes concerning how much many are actually being paid. I knew that the Goodwill workers here in Fort Worth were not getting the minimum wage, but I had not realized that the pay may be so miniscule.
WTF. Pardon my French. This makes me extremely angry. After reading this, I dont know what to do but to just to post this on CD forum.
Please read it. I want people to know what Goodwill has done to these people.
Does anybody have any suggestion how regular people like us can help in this situation?
This is a tough one especially with high unemployment. If it was full minimum wage, wouldn't that mean able body people could apply for the jobs? If that's the case then it's competitive and whomever has the higher efficiency wins.
The other choice would be to have a law that allowed only the hiring of disabled people and at m. wage or higher. That would be reverse discrimination.
The timed rule for the most part sounds fair but yes degrading. I think Good Will's ultimate goal is to get people in regular employment if they can. They aren't looking o set up labor camps to pay their fat cat CEO.
I don't like the headline. Maybe I missed it but it says people getting paid .22 an hour but never gives an example of who.
WTF. Pardon my French. This makes me extremely angry. After reading this, I dont know what to do but to just to post this on CD forum.
Please read it. I want people to know what Goodwill has done to these people.
Does anybody have any suggestion how regular people like us can help in this situation?
Sure. First start by getting all the facts.
1. It only impacts 4k of the 30k disabled workers. Do you have any idea how few employers will take on the types of workers that would fall in that category? Then in the more profoundly disabled category of the 4k....who would hire them?
2. If a regular worker can make 10 widgets a day and bob can only make 2 widgets a day and makes $1 an hour, you'd prefer he'd make $5 and hour. What happens when bob can only make a widget every week as his disabilities worsen?
3. They are all receiving disablity incomes from the govt. This money is supplemental to that.
So what you guys are so upset about are people whom are virtually unemployable and unable to work even basic jobs very well, whom no one else will employ are able to get out of the house, socialize and contribute to the extent of their disabilities.....but you want them to be artificially paid the same as all the people around them.
Goodwill is providing a societal benefit, I would urge you to stop and think about it.
P.S. If you don't want to take my word for it, contact some of the local groups that work with special needs and disabled adults etc. and listen to what they have to say. My buddy is heavily involved in this and I too have a special needs kid as well.
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