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Old 06-21-2013, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Discredit what? That the man just spoon fed you garbage and you ate it up? No one is forcing you to move to the suburbs, but I will be damned if I am gonna let the idiots in the suburbs consume any more of our country's farm land.
Why? What's wrong with "consuming farm land"?
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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It's fun watching unabashed hypocrites calling others "sheeple" for having the audacity to consider something contrary to their brand of propaganda. The thing about posting anything from FOX, it instantly goes into the "total garbage" box... even if it's the true.
Kinda like anything Obama says. I assume it's a lie until proven otherwise. And that's a good assumption 90% of the time.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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You're not getting it. If that's the way you want to live fine, leave the rest of us alone. Everybody should have free choice as to how they want to live and where. What we are discussing if a push to get us off the land and into the cities. First it's a nudge, then a push, then a shove where we have no choice.
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And wingnuts wonder why they are called wingNUTS


Wacka-doo, wacka-doo, wacka-doo-doo-doo.

Ken
It must be so scary to be a Republican. They are like frightened children ~ so afraid of everything.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Walkable neighborhoods, in reality, are neighborhoods with not enough parking. You control the cars by restricting people's ability to park.

Only idiots want to live like that.
How much parking do you need at your house? Walkable neighborhoods has nothing to do with the restriction of parking, unless you are telling me you have a huge parking lot next to your house to prevent any restrictions on your parking.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The other leftist cliché in this same general topic is 'diverse neighborhood'.

This makes sketchy, crime-ridden areas sound almost attractive to ignorant 20 and 30 somethings with no children.
So is this your way of saying you don't like "non-white neighbors?" I mean, if we are gonna be honest here, it seems your fear of "sustainable developments" is rooted in your fear of non-whites, when in actuality the two have nothing to do with each other, nor does skin color have anything to do with crime.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's a leftist cliché. You're just so brainwashed you don't realize it.
You sir, are what the normal world calls a "lost cause." I don't know how you get internet to that shack you live in in the middle of nowhere as you fear the outside world.

The only people here that are brainwashed are you and anyone else that is sucker enough to believe the man in the video. But unfortunately there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to believe the garbage that they are being spoon fed, and your posts are proof of that.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Why? What's wrong with "consuming farm land"?
Ask the farmers that, or drive through the forests and tell me you are okay with cutting them down to build suburbs. I am sure there are some beautiful rural areas near you that could be demolished for suburbs. You should go there and tell those people that their way of life is going to be destroyed by the people in the suburbs and ask them if they are okay with that.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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I have no problem if idiotic leftists live in crime ridden, 'walkable' hovels. Just leave the rest of us alone. Maybe you can call your neighborhood a**hole acres.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I have no problem if idiotic leftists live in crime ridden, 'walkable' hovels. Just leave the rest of us alone. Maybe you can call your neighborhood a**hole acres.
You are laughable at best, nice try but we can't name our neighborhood that because your neighborhood is already named that.
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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It must be so scary to be a Republican. They are like frightened children ~ so afraid of everything.
I am not a Republican. This is about freedom loving Americans being bamboozled by this agenda, that is covert and sneaky, selling us a fairy tale, when it's really a futuristic nightmare
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This, from Democrats Against Agenda 21

Redevelopment is a tool used to further the Agenda 21 vision of remaking America's cities. With redevelopment, cities have the right to take property by eminent domain---against the will of the property owner, and give it or sell it to a private developer. By declaring an area of town 'blighted' (and in some cities over 90% of the city area has been declared blighted) the property taxes in that area can be diverted away from the General Fund. This constriction of available funds is impoverishing the cities, forcing them to offer less and less services, and reducing your standard of living. They'll be telling you that it's better, however, since they've put in nice street lights and colored paving. The money gets redirected into the Redevelopment Agency and handed out to favored developers building low income housing and mixed use. Smart Growth. Cities have had thousands of condos built in the redevelopment areas and are telling you that you are terrible for wanting your own yard, for wanting privacy, for not wanting to be dictated to by a Condo Homeowner's Association Board, for being anti-social, for not going along to get along, for not moving into a cramped apartment downtown where they can use your property taxes for paying off that huge bond debt. But it's not working, and you don't want to move in there. So they have to make you. Read on.

Human habitation, as it is referred to now, is restricted to lands within the Urban Growth Boundaries of the city. Only certain building designs are permitted. Rural property is more and more restricted in what uses can be on it. Although counties say that they support agricultural uses, eating locally produced food, farmer's markets, etc, in fact there are so many regulations restricting water and land use (there are scenic corridors, inland rural corridors, baylands corridors, area plans, specific plans, redevelopment plans, huge fees, fines) that farmers are losing their lands altogether. County roads are not being paved. The push is for people to get off of the land, become more dependent, come into the cities. To get out of the suburbs and into the cities. Out of their private homes and into condos. Out of their private cars and onto their bikes.

This plan is a whole life plan. It involves the educational system, the energy market, the transportation system, the governmental system, the health care system, food production, and more. The plan is to restrict your choices, limit your funds, narrow your freedoms, and take away your voice. One of the ways is by using the Delphi Technique to 'manufacture consensus.' Another is to infiltrate community groups or actually start neighborhood associations with hand-picked 'leaders'. Another is to groom and train future candidates for local offices. Another is to sponsor non-governmental groups that go into schools and train children. Another is to offer federal and private grants and funding for city programs that further the agenda. Another is to educate a new generation of land use planners to require New Urbanism. Another is to convert factories to other uses, introduce energy measures that penalize manufacturing, and set energy consumption goals to pre-1985 levels. Another is to allow unregulated immigration in order to lower standards of living and drain local resources.


DEMOCRATS* AGAINST* U. N.* AGENDA* 21 - OK, So what is Agenda 21? And why should I care? Part 1
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