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Old 06-23-2013, 02:43 PM
 
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You are making assumptions based on your own personal viewpoint. I say this because you keep referring to carrying a loaded gun as if it is something out of the ordinary and requires conscious thought. If you have a CCW you might never carry a gun, only carry it in certain situations, or carry it all the time (i.e. shopping, grocery store, church, etc.). I know many a person who carries virtually everywhere they go, and don't even think twice about being armed. I know that sounds strange to those who never carry, much less who don't own or have touched a real gun.
Aside from everything you said, lets assume for the moment that Zimmermans story is fairly accurate though biased in his favor.
If Martin confronted him or visa versa, had Zimmerman not been armed, it may very well have been Zimmerman who was the fatality, not Martin. There is little question now as to who was screaming for help, so even if Zimmerman was the "aggressor" most of the way, he eventually became the person that was being beaten upon. If Zimmerman was not armed, and no one came to his aid in time, he might very well have had his skull bashed in.
Would that have been a better outcome in your view?

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I am referring to the loaded gun because Mr. Zimmerman shot Mr. Martin with that loaded gun. The rest of your nonsense about the gun is irrelevant.

In terms of the fight, we don't know if a fight occurred. We don't know who was in danger in said fight. We don't know who was screaming. We don't know anything about the contact between Mr. Zimmerman and Mr. Martin, what we do know are the decisions that each made that night before that contact.

We know that Mr. Martin unarmed went to the store to buy candy and pop. We know that Mr. Zimmerman made choice after choice after choice that increasingly made contact with Mr. Martin likely, and we know Mr. Zimmerman had a loaded gun on him.

To me all of these action point to it being very doubtful that Mr. Zimmerman was not the aggressor when the two finally had the contact that Mr. Zimmerman worked so aggressively hard to ensure occurred.

 
Old 06-23-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Houston
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There is no opined there.

Zimmerman's injuries were insignificant.

The fact that Zimmerman's injuries were insignificant is insignificant.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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The fact that Zimmerman's injuries were insignificant is insignificant.
?

So that leaves the jury with Zimmerman's word that he feared for his life. His word. After all the many inconsistencies in his different statements. How does the defense get that message to the jury in a compelling manner if Zimmerman does not testify
 
Old 06-23-2013, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It was yet another lame right-wing rationalization for Zimmerman's actions.
Why are you politicizing a tragedy?
 
Old 06-23-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Tell Harrier I wasn't the one who brought up Ted Bundy.
You never answered this question.

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If Ted Bundy had carried Skittles and Ice Tea would that have made him harmless?
 
Old 06-23-2013, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Well, the entire premise of this thread has been throughly debunked.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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AGAIN, please learn the difference between a sworn statement and a DEPOSITION. They are not the same. Zimmerman has never given a DEPOSITION.
Do you know the difference between DEPOSITION and DESPARATION? That is what this post sounds like in response to a well written logical post.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Desparation?
 
Old 06-23-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Desparation?
LOL I was thinking the same thing.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Desparation?
Desperation then. My spelling is not as good as it was 50 years ago when I won my school's spelling bee.

Some people sound desperate when they counter a good argument. Or when they resort to flaming their opponent on spelling or typos when they cannot argue on the merits.
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