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Old 06-24-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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As if your pro-Zimmerman opinions make any sense or have any relevance...........
This what I don't get. I can somewhat get the whole Mr. Zimmerman deserves a fair trail fake concern, but this defense of Mr. Zimmerman, why?

He shot an unarmed teenager who wasn't doing anything at all on the night in question. What is there to defend about Mr. Zimmerman's actions?

These Mr. Zimmerman defenders even sink to the level of attacking Mr. Martin. Why, he is dead and his actions on that night prior to getting shot don't point to him doing anything wrong at all, and he was unarmed.

Other than a person being a racist or prejudice or someone who is so afraid of black people and wishing more would just get shot and killed, I don't understand what would cause someone to be a Mr. Zimmerman defender.

What is so appealing about what Mr. Zimmerman did that someone is compelled to say hey that guy needs a defender?

 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Absolutely! They certainly appear to have a good case, IMO. I found it interesting that they have a photo or photos from a private citizen of the scene prior to the arrival of the police.
What a riveting opener from John Guy. Just knew something was going to be dropped that we haven't heard yet. And there is much more yet to come. You could see Don West with his mouth agape, lol. I don't think he knew what hit him. Defense has a mountain to climb to say the least.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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What is so appealing about what Mr. Zimmerman did that someone is compelled to say hey that guy needs a defender?
He saved his own life by shooting his attacker, that's somewhat appealing to anyone who takes personal safety and defense seriously.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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When mail order law clerk opinions become important I'll PM you for advice. Thanks.
YOU don't have enough money to pay me to ever give you professional advice.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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He saved his own life by shooting his attacker, that's somewhat appealing to anyone who takes personal safety and defense seriously.
Self-defense requires one to use every option possible to get away, and after hearing the State's opening seems to me that Zimmerman did NOT do that.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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He saved his own life by shooting his attacker, that's somewhat appealing to anyone who takes personal safety and defense seriously.
Anyone who takes personal safety and defense seriously would not purposely put themselves in harms way. Anyone who takes personal safety and defense seriously would not pursue potential the possibility of jeopardizing that safety
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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This what I don't get. I can somewhat get the whole Mr. Zimmerman deserves a fair trail fake concern, but this defense of Mr. Zimmerman, why?

He shot an unarmed teenager who wasn't doing anything at all on the night in question. What is there to defend about Mr. Zimmerman's actions?

These Mr. Zimmerman defenders even sink to the level of attacking Mr. Martin. Why, he is dead and his actions on that night prior to getting shot don't point to him doing anything wrong at all, and he was unarmed.

Other than a person being a racist or prejudice or someone who is so afraid of black people and wishing more would just get shot and killed, I don't understand what would cause someone to be a Mr. Zimmerman defender.

What is so appealing about what Mr. Zimmerman did that someone is compelled to say hey that guy needs a defender?
For some Zimmerman defenders, I think it really has very little to do about Zimmerman himself and more to do with.......guns. And their fear that the outcome of this trial might affect their own rights to carry everywhere and any time they want.

I doubt their "outrage" has much to do with justice for Zimmerman at all.

And certainly not for a dead, unarmed teenager.

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Gun advocacy groups are rushing in to attempt to fund Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman‘s defense funds, HLN’s Craig Johnson reports.

At least two gun groups are standing up for Zimmerman, offering to contribute money and support.
Gun Groups Seek To Fund George Zimmerman’s Defense | Mediaite
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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He saved his own life by shooting his attacker, that's somewhat appealing to anyone who takes personal safety and defense seriously.
You don't know if Mr. Martin was attacking Mr. Zimmerman, and based on their actions it is strange that you would think that.

Mr. Martin left the house to go get pop and candy. He left the store after he bought pop and candy. He was talking on the phone to a girl. He was doing nothing.

Mr. Zimmerman first wrongly identified Mr. Martin as being up to no good and a criminal. Then Mr. Zimmerman compounded that mistake by following Mr. Martin in his car. The Mr. Zimmerman further compounded that mistake by following Mr. Martin on foot with a loaded gun.

If Mr. Zimmerman at any point makes the less aggressive choice nothing happens that night.

Now for some reason you seem to believe after Mr. Zimmerman made aggressive choice after aggressive choice to ensure contact with Mr. Martin would likely to happen that Mr. Zimmerman was not aggressive when that contact finally occurred.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Zimmerman's aggression is what initiated the whole thing in the first place. He is not a police officer. He should have stopped following like the dispatcher told him. Anyone who doesn't understand that is just stupid tbh.
You're one of the people who are absolutely, positively certain that gz did Not stop following tm. A few people aren't sure of that and remain open to the possibility that tm did choose to initiate the face-to-face. Anyone who doesn't understand That is just stupid.
 
Old 06-24-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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YOU don't have enough money to pay me to ever give you professional advice.
Of course I don't, regardless of cost I simply can't pay you enough to provide me with something you aren't capable of providing. I can't afford to pay you enough to fly my space shuttle either.
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