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Why this thread is nothing more than faux outrage for the abortion hater OP?
He says its wrong to see a child die, but he/she never starts threads about all the already LIVING and BREATHING children that die at the hands of abusive parents, or those parents who abandon their children.
...but side with the people who cut SNAP benefits and CHIPS, which children depend.
not all the time. Depends on the state (not all state laws observe that) and also the time in the pregnancy for which the mother is murdered/killed.
a mother close to giving birth (ie 8 or 9 months) the person can be charged with double homicide (since its widely accepted that a fetus at 8 or 9 months is viable.
Yes it is. which is why abortions after 22 weeks in this country can only be performed under VERY restrictive circumstances (ie the baby to be is born with health defects like an open skull).
Other than it, its illegal.
Why this thread is nothing more than faux outrage for the abortion hater OP?
He says its wrong to see a child die, but he/she never starts threads about all the already LIVING and BREATHING children that die at the hands of abusive parents, or those parents who abandon their children.
Why are you bringing information to this thread? These types of threads are NEVER about sharing information, about being rational, or about the reality of the situation. These threads are about irrational emotions and are only created to sling mud.
You should have taken a clue from the title where it says "pro-death liberals."
Why are you bringing information to this thread? These types of threads are NEVER about sharing information, about being rational, or about the reality of the situation. These threads are about irrational emotions and are only created to sling mud.
You should have taken a clue from the title where it says "pro-death liberals."
Hmmm, rationality and reality vs dingbat orthodoxy. What a concept.
an abortion done in violation of the law isnt an abortion, it s murder. That is why a criminal is charged with 2,not one.
And yet it does happen for as little a birth defect as a cleft palate. I speak of the partial birth abortions.
It is a woman's choice. I support her choice. It is she who lives with the choice. I don't judge her because her body quite frankly is absolutely none of my business. I have even changed my position on tax dollars paying for it.
Where I feel we need more oversight is in the area of the partial birth abortion. I feel this because of how cruel the procedure is to the baby. If you did it to a dog you would be arrested on the spot.
If the hospital is private and not government funded it should be free to make whatever decision they want when it comes to elective procedures.
Just as women should be free to make whatever decision they want as to legal abortion.
So right wingers have never protested in front of a pro choice hospital or clinic ?
The pro-abortion people are alive during those protests - the babies who they kill never have a chance, similar to Fezzik not intentionally missing with his rock.
The pro-abortion people do not act in a sportsmanlike manner - they simply say "I could kill you now"- and then they do.
The babies have no way of saying or doing the equivalent of "do you mean that you will set down your rock and I will set down my sword and we will try to kill each other like civilized people".
Hmmm, rationality and reality vs dingbat orthodoxy. What a concept.
Well, I for one, am not holding my breath...
It's been "discussed" ad nauseam and always comes down to emotions because one side has a very emotional investment into an issue that is, ultimately, conceptually idealized.
When that stance clashes with a more objective perspective on this issue that takes reality, enforceability, and logic into a account to a larger degree, you WILL be forced to argue on ground level because that is essentially the only common denominator.
Add to this the varying degrees of absolutism that this issue brings up, and you are really in trouble.
You can readily see this from the posts in this thread: Many tend to talk about emotional issues or make statements that are aimed at eliciting an emotional response.
This is often countered with responses that address the reality of the situation by referring to the law, logic, and science. Emotion seems only to enter as a response to statements by the opposing group.
And there you have it: At some point, it's all about slinging insults.
...but side with the people who cut SNAP benefits and CHIPS, which children depend.
Certainly. The con position is that ex-utero Americans should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. The end.
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