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Let's see, we have "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky" and a fine for purgery, yet we have no lie posted by the current President. I wonder who really is in denial.
Let's see, we have "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky" and a fine for purgery, yet we have no lie posted by the current President. I wonder who really is in denial.
Please try to be accurate when quoting other people. The statement was, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", to which he would have been technically correct. As defined by Websters, sexual relations referred to sexual intercourse.
Here nor there, it was skirting the truth and in my opinion as good as a lie. The act of a scoundrel, not something we should expect out of the office of President of the United States which I would hope we all hold to a higher standard.
As to Bush, well if you wish to hear him lie, I think he did so the other day when he said "we" don't torture people. When clearly the United States has prosecuted and convicted several people for waterboarding in the past and the President has already admitted we have used it at least on three occasions.
Clinton gave America a black eye, Bush just shot it in the head.
As a Vietnam combat veteran, I would have cut off my right arm before voting for John Kerry. The people who really ought to "feel like horse manure" are those who had such contempt for the American people that they nominated Kerry and guaranteed Bush a second term. Listen to the swiftboaters much?
And as a Vietnam veteran, I thought Kerry was a better choice than an AWOL Chicken-Hawk.
As a Vietnam combat veteran, I would have cut off my right arm before voting for John Kerry. The people who really ought to "feel like horse manure" are those who had such contempt for the American people that they nominated Kerry and guaranteed Bush a second term. Listen to the swiftboaters much?
And as a Vietnam veteran, I thought Kerry was a better choice than an AWOL Chicken-Hawk.
So we cancel each other out at the polls.
Again, no evidence of being AWOL, another strawman argument.
Please try to be accurate when quoting other people. The statement was, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", to which he would have been technically correct. As defined by Websters, sexual relations referred to sexual intercourse.
Here nor there, it was skirting the truth and in my opinion as good as a lie. The act of a scoundrel, not something we should expect out of the office of President of the United States which I would hope we all hold to a higher standard.
As to Bush, well if you wish to hear him lie, I think he did so the other day when he said "we" don't torture people. When clearly the United States has prosecuted and convicted several people for waterboarding in the past and the President has already admitted we have used it at least on three occasions.
Clinton gave America a black eye, Bush just shot it in the head.
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There's two ways to refute this claim. Per U.S. policy, we do NOT torture people. And if some people have been convicted, we OBVIOUSLY don't suppor waterboarding. Besides, there is a question as to whether waterboarding is torture.
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Again, no evidence of being AWOL, another strawman argument.
Your right about the AWOL . But he's still a pu$$y coward for the fly in on the air craft carrier and did bother to serve over in Vietnam when he had the chance.
Your right about the AWOL . But he's still a pu$$y coward for the fly in on the air craft carrier and did bother to serve over in Vietnam when he had the chance.
There were plenty of people who didn't even serve in the military. Should we disqualify all candidate who have never served?
Please try to be accurate when quoting other people. The statement was, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", to which he would have been technically correct. As defined by Websters, sexual relations referred to sexual intercourse.
Here nor there, it was skirting the truth and in my opinion as good as a lie. The act of a scoundrel, not something we should expect out of the office of President of the United States which I would hope we all hold to a higher standard.
As to Bush, well if you wish to hear him lie, I think he did so the other day when he said "we" don't torture people. When clearly the United States has prosecuted and convicted several people for waterboarding in the past and the President has already admitted we have used it at least on three occasions.
Clinton gave America a black eye, Bush just shot it in the head.
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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There were plenty of people who didn't even serve in the military. Should we disqualify all candidate who have never served?
No. My gripe and more importantly my father (Vietnam veteran) gripe is this tough guy image he tried to portray when we were "winning."
Bush ran away when it counted. Still this does not disqualify him from seeking office. But Against John Kerry service. Bush should have been discredited as a tough guy war time president.
Let me just state for the record that. I think if we voted in John Kerry we would still be in Iraq as of current but I think we'd more then likely be out in 2 years or so from present. But that is conjecture on my part.
Your right about the AWOL . But he's still a pu$$y coward for the fly in on the air craft carrier and did bother to serve over in Vietnam when he had the chance.
So you are saying all those who serve in the National Guard are cowards? Thats a bold statement.
I say a coward is someone who came back from serving and made outragous claims against his fellow troops just because it was the politicly correct thing to do. Then recant years later.
WE are all taught at boot camp the UCMJ No one can compell you to commit an unlawful act nor to follow unlawful orders......
Mr Kerry at first claimed to have witnessed such unlawful acts as murders and rapes and yet did nothing about it. As an officer that makes him guilty of dereliction of duty at the very least and possibly an accomplice.
He then changed the story to, he heard about such things. Hmmm As a commissioned officer it was then his responsibility to investigate or report what he had heard. Instead he waited until he was safely home and a civilian to slander his former comrades in arms.
I do not challenge his service to his country... For that I am grateful to him as a fellow navy vet. But make no mistake I do take him to task over his slanderous statements. I also give credibility to the swift boat sailors who served with him not just on his boat but the squadran. They would know exactly what happened.
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