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I think there is this belief that scientists are above such common needs such as monetary gain. However, time and again, we've seen the ethical standards of scientists broken in favor of monetary gain. I do not think it is wrong to questions the proponents of climate change (or global warming or whatever they're calling it these days) when they clearly benefit greatly by their positions. Scientists, like all humans, are fallible and not above reproach. Personally, I believe the altered datasets for the climate models illustrated that point perfectly.
I would like to see the sum total of money spent on fueling the denial held up against the money spent on fueling the acceptance.
There's an enormous amount of money in grants (the scientists bread and butter). My point is that one cannot say scientists are free from monetary urges.
One can actually show that all this filthy lucre is corrupting them, though. The scientific findings speak for themselves, and quality control is pretty high. Cold fusion didn't last two months, and that's without a world-wide communication network available for researchers to use to discuss the matter.
Actually, that's quite accurate and perhaps a bit too subtle for some people to realize. Climate change is very real. We have ample evidence of that occurring in times past. The real debate, and the one which may or may not be true, is if man's actions have caused adverse effects with respect to the global climate.
Yes, it's called "weather". And has been happening to this earth since waaaaay before man started using fossil fuels.
There's an enormous amount of money in grants (the scientists bread and butter). My point is that one cannot say scientists are free from monetary urges.
The Kansas-based company and its affiliates and foundations spent almost $25 million on "organizations of the 'climate denial machine'" between 2005 and 2008, according to the report. Koch Industries and the Koch family also spent $37.9 million between 2006 and 2009. "Although Koch intentionally stays out of the public eye, it is now playing a quiet but dominant role in a high-profile national policy debate on global warming," the report concludes.
What a phenomenally absurdist stance! Curtailing our emissions does not equal heating our homes with animal dung or living in caves. If everyone at least chose to walk a lot more, recycle, car pool or use public transit (our buses run on used restaurant grease), not buy SUVs (oil rigs on wheels), eschew things like styrofoam, it would make a difference.
I heat and power my home with kinetic energy.
Exactly - CHOOSE. It's when our government FORCES us, based on iffy science, that you have the problem.
So anyone who doesn't agree with global warming listens to Rush and Fox news? Now do you have anything to back that up or are you just getting desperate? I think I know the answer to that one.
Your link is damn funny too. China getting all serious. LOL. Your link is from '09. Their emissions have gone way up from '09 to '11 the last year IEA shows on their chart. Yeah really serious aren't they? lol
The Kansas-based company and its affiliates and foundations spent almost $25 million on "organizations of the 'climate denial machine'" between 2005 and 2008, according to the report. Koch Industries and the Koch family also spent $37.9 million between 2006 and 2009. "Although Koch intentionally stays out of the public eye, it is now playing a quiet but dominant role in a high-profile national policy debate on global warming," the report concludes.
Yes, it's called "weather". And has been happening to this earth since waaaaay before man started using fossil fuels.
You don't know the difference between climate and weather??
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