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Old 06-25-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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so are the feds excluded from intervening until a new basis is drafted by Congress? What would keep the House from scrapping the idea altogether and giving the states free reign? It just seems to me a lot of election oversight by the federal government was done away with (although I do understand and agree with the reasoning).
The Voting Rights Act is still in place and fully functional. The Court struck down Section 4 (pre-clearance for some ) and essentially made Section 5 (which only applied to Section 4 under present Law) null until/unless Congress passes new requirements for Section 5.

We should be clear that the VRA still gives us the option to challenge changes to election legislation in any jurisdiction just as we have had before; however, the jurisdictions previously covered in Section 4, which were required to get approval from the DOJ for any changes, no longer have to get approval or "pre-clearance." We can still challenge the changes, but the burden is on the challenger to prove it's a violation of the VRA, instead of on the jurisdiction to prove it's not a violation of the VRA.

The Supreme Court decision (pdf file) that rules Section 4 or the Voting Rights Act Un-Constitutional.

This is a ruling against the over-reach of Eric Holder and his Civil Rights division. It was expected.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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thanks for clearing things up
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:11 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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This is a ruling against the over-reach of Eric Holder and his Civil Rights division.
The issue pre-dates Mr. Holder's tenure as Attorney General.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:16 AM
 
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Good. Black people are more than equal in America these days. In fact, SCOTUS just gave them the green light to have more rights than white people just yesterday in its ruling on Affirmative Action.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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2012 elections made it pretty clear that some states do indeed try to discriminate with access to voting rights. This decision was political.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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The irony here is that GWB was elected because of abuse at the local level.
GWB was elected because he won the election, let's not drift off in to LWNJ land and stay firmly on the ground here ok.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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2012 elections made it pretty clear that some states do indeed try to discriminate with access to voting rights. This decision was political.
The 2012 election, in which the first partially black man ever to be elected POTUS was re-elected by a decent margin proves that some states discriminate against who exactly?
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The 2012 election, in which the first partially black man ever to be elected POTUS was re-elected by a decent margin proves that some states discriminate against who exactly?
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The Voting Rights Act is still in place and fully functional. The Court struck down Section 4 (pre-clearance for some ) and essentially made Section 5 (which only applied to Section 4 under present Law) null until/unless Congress passes new requirements for Section 5.

We should be clear that the VRA still gives us the option to challenge changes to election legislation in any jurisdiction just as we have had before; however, the jurisdictions previously covered in Section 4, which were required to get approval from the DOJ for any changes, no longer have to get approval or "pre-clearance." We can still challenge the changes, but the burden is on the challenger to prove it's a violation of the VRA, instead of on the jurisdiction to prove it's not a violation of the VRA.

The Supreme Court decision (pdf file) that rules Section 4 or the Voting Rights Act Un-Constitutional.

This is a ruling against the over-reach of Eric Holder and his Civil Rights division. It was expected.
MSNBC needs you they are on over drive in the dramatics department, Chris Hayes is "physically enraged".
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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2012 elections made it pretty clear that some states do indeed try to discriminate with access to voting rights. This decision was political.
Discrimination is still illegal.
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