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Old 06-25-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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One of the most WTF issues surrounding Snowden is his choice of where to seek asylum considering his expressed outrages over the NSA's surveillance program. I don't think that is necessary to recount here the painfully obvious record of China, and Russia's abuse of civil liberties but a cursory look at Ecuador in general and Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa is just as striking.

Since taking office in 2007, Correa has set in place a series of policies that are as troubling, if not more so, than any policy put in place in the U.S. In Correa's Ecuador the government has the power to determine if information is truthful and outlines criminal penalties of undermining the prestige of the government, for deliberately omitting "topics of public interest." Correa has already shut down six television stations and dozens of independent newspapers that were critical of the government. All of which leads me to ponder the strange attraction that Ecuador represents for a self-proclaimed champion of civil liberties.

Further readings:

Snowden won’t find a beacon of civil rights in Ecuador - Salon.com

New Ecuadoran legislation seen as a gag on critics - Blog - Committee to Protect Journalists

Julian Assange: Welcome to Ecuador, a hotbed of corruption, extortion and repression (so says WikiLeaks) | Mail Online

Young Professionals in Human Rights » Blog Archive » Ecuador
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:00 PM
 
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Even stranger is how conservatives and teabaggers are shmoozing up to Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea as pinnacles of freedom and liberty. I guess it's because they outlaw gay marriage.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:03 PM
 
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Even stranger is how conservatives and teabaggers are shmoozing up to Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea as pinnacles of freedom and liberty. I guess it's because they outlaw gay marriage.
Wtf are you talking about?
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Wtf are you talking about?

Read any postings by Alex Jones fans/teabaggers on stories linked from Drudge.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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Even stranger is how conservatives and teabaggers are shmoozing up to Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea as pinnacles of freedom and liberty. I guess it's because they outlaw gay marriage.
Where is this warped viewpoint coming from?
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Even stranger is how conservatives and teabaggers are shmoozing up to Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea as pinnacles of freedom and liberty. I guess it's because they outlaw gay marriage.
Are you writing a fictional novel? The country is being taken over by lizard people, zombies are being bred in San Francisco from Pelosi's DNA, and there's no such thing as a market bubble.

If you're going to be absurd, do it all the way.

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Read any postings by Alex Jones fans/teabaggers on stories linked from Drudge.
Go find links like all good posters do. Until then, it's just revisions and interpretations. The fact that you still use teabaggers tells us where the fantasy lies.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Fugitives--whether from justice or injustice--are not tourists. They do not normally have a wide selection of countries from which to choose.

Fidel Castro was considerably worse than Correa or Putin, yet many Americans of a certain type, who were not in Snowden's desperate position and who had a choice, were quite enthusiastic about his regime.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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Read any postings by Alex Jones fans/teabaggers on stories linked from Drudge.
I'll check it out. I must have missed the "we love North Korea" section.

Pathetic.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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One of the most WTF issues surrounding Snowden is his choice of where to seek asylum considering his expressed outrages over the NSA's surveillance program. I don't think that is necessary to recount here the painfully obvious record of China, and Russia's abuse of civil liberties but a cursory look at Ecuador in general and Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa is just as striking.

Since taking office in 2007, Correa has set in place a series of policies that are as troubling, if not more so, than any policy put in place in the U.S. In Correa's Ecuador the government has the power to determine if information is truthful and outlines criminal penalties of undermining the prestige of the government, for deliberately omitting "topics of public interest." Correa has already shut down six television stations and dozens of independent newspapers that were critical of the government. All of which leads me to ponder the strange attraction that Ecuador represents for a self-proclaimed champion of civil liberties.

Further readings:

Snowden won’t find a beacon of civil rights in Ecuador - Salon.com

New Ecuadoran legislation seen as a gag on critics - Blog - Committee to Protect Journalists

Julian Assange: Welcome to Ecuador, a hotbed of corruption, extortion and repression (so says WikiLeaks) | Mail Online

Young Professionals in Human Rights » Blog Archive » Ecuador
The guy is an anti-american communist. It should be obvious by now
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Wtf are you talking about?

This is a guy who got himself banned, probably over scatological refererences, and had to create a new account. What is even more interesting is that looney lefties like this are out in full force trashing Snowden. I can't say whether Snowden is a patriot or traitor, but it is interesting in itself that the looney left is out for his scalp.
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