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Old 06-26-2013, 09:53 PM
 
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Obama: No Keystone Pipeline If It Increases Carbon Emissions | CNS News

President Barack Obama said Tuesday that the Keystone XL pipeline would not be built if it created more carbon pollution. “Allowing the Keystone pipeline to be built requires finding that doing so would be in our nation’s interest, and our national interest will be served only if this project does not significantly exacerbate the problem of carbon pollution,” the president said. “The net effect of the pipeline’s impact on our climate will be absolutely critical to determining whether this project is allowed to go forward."

We will burn the same exact amount of carbon, whether it comes from the Keystone pipeline or Saudi oil, Obama is an idiot.
I'd prefer "no Keystone pipeline because the Republicans want it and so I'm gonna stick it to them" but at least the one about carbon emissions is better then him signing it
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:06 PM
 
Location: WA
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Breathing increases carbon emissions. The green loons are kicking into overdrive trying to destroy what is left of the economy.
No, it doesn't, but it's a common misconception. The carbon dioxide you are producing through cellular respiration is balanced by the photosynthesis of the plants you ate for breakfast.

The wheat plant that eventually ended up in your Cheerios took out of the atmosphere the carbon you are putting into it. It's a net gain of 0.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:22 AM
 
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Oh it's balanced now according to the loons? LOL

What is your net gain for being on the PC and using power?
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:57 AM
 
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you are overestimating the intelligence of obama and his worshipers.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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Yes Obama's rhetoric here is very low IQ.

If we do not build the keystone pipeline, then Canada will sell it to China instead. There are only 2 options as Canada has made up its mind. The oil goes to the US or it goes to China. If it goes to China - a pipeline to their west coast, where the oil will be shipped to China and then refined in a country with less pollution regulations. No one can dispute this.

Building the Keystone pipeline will actually help the environment.


Obama typically gives out low IQ propaganda while his supporters mindlessly chant "Yes We Can" and faint.
Obama's flock of ignorant sycophants think that if we don't produce oil in the US, that it will prevent more CO2 from going into the environment.

The American people will still burn the same exact amount of oil. Just because the oil we buy comes from overseas does not mean less CO2 will be created, more will end up being created. The oil used in ships and trucks and trains, to move it around from Saudi Arabia, China or wherever it is we are forced to import it from, will be a net gain in CO2.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:42 AM
 
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Naaah; he's simply a pandering sycophant of the greenie movement. The state department has already released a study and stated twice now that the pipeline would not noticably increase carbon footprint of the U.S. because the stuff is being chemically processed in CANADA, inserted into a pipeline for transport and later upgrading by gulf refineries that are already processing the stuff by the truck/trainload from Canada regardless.

How much carbon emissions do all those tanker trucks and trains put out again?

He knows that arguments to the contrary will be summarily debunked and he can do the "see; I'm clean." dance at the greenie ball next year.
Yep. He's just posturing for the base. The dems aren't going to oppose keystone seriously because there are key senate seats up in 2014 in those RURAL states and they are already in trouble due to all the gun rhetoric....which they also abandoned.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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Reading through this thread makes me think obama is the greatest troll ever.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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From the obama speech yesterdaytranslation: its time to support my cronies now
The odd thing is when they were questioned on what "oil subsidies" they were talking about, they responded with, oil companies write off employee expenses.

Their idiots.. all businesses do that..
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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Far From D.C., Michigan Residents Fight Their Own Tar Sands Pipeline Battles
Michigan residents are worried about a massive tar sands oil spill that persists in their backyards.
Thousands of people along the Kalamazoo River are still dealing with a record tar sands oil pipeline accident that closed 40 miles of their river, with no end in sight. Residents say it forced people to move, hurt their businesses and continues to threaten their health. Some say they will never let their kids swim in the river again. And they worry that future pipeline company plans to expand tar sands oil operations in the area may endanger their lives even more.
Rocky Kistner: Far From D.C., Michigan Residents Fight Their Own Tar Sands Pipeline Battles

Deep In Canadian Lakes, Signs Of Tar Sands Pollution
Canadian researchers have used the mud at the bottom of lakes like a time machine to show that tar sands oil production in Alberta, Canada, is polluting remote regional lakes as far as 50 miles from the operations.
Deep In Canadian Lakes, Signs Of Tar Sands Pollution : NPR

Oil Sands May Irrevocably Tar the Climate
The mines, with their vast lakes of toxic water residue and blocks of bright yellow elemental sulfur, are already big enough to see from space—an industrial patch steadily spreading in the boreal forest.
At Christina Lake, engineers inject roughly two barrels of steam to pump back out one barrel of bitumen. All that steam—and the natural gas burned to heat it—means melting bitumen results in two and a half times more greenhouse gas pollution than surface mining, itself among the highest emitters for any kind of oil production.
Oil Sands May Irrevocably Tar the Climate: Scientific American

Sorry Cons but I choose to leave a world where my children can drink the water and breath the air as a more important consideration than me just having a job.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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Sorry Cons but I choose to leave a world where my children can drink the water and breath the air as a more important consideration than me just having a job.
Well fortunately for you, Obama is looking out for you. *snicker*
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