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Using public transportation, taxis, walking, riding a bike, or calling a friend who drives is stupid?
How about Harrier's proposed solutions above(which jmqueen responded to, but falsely states that Harrier never posted)that public funds be used to implement a "Dial a Ride" system for the elderly or infirm, or that some of you Democrats organize a volunteer organization that helps get people around?
In other words - why don't you seek solutions rather than play politics?
That is why jmqueen misrepresents Harrier - he heard exactly what Harrier said and didn't like it - because it challenged him to actually do something rather than throw mud.
Another thread on the SCOTUS ruling? There are already at least 5.
I will present the same invitation is this thread as I have in several of the others:
Can any person opposing the SCOTUS ruling clearly indicate how any of the current voter ID laws, either those passed in places like Indiana, or proposed in places like Texas equate to any degree of voter suppression? I have asked, and have yet to receive anything even approaching a credible answer. If a state proposed legislation requiring a photo ID vote, and includes provisions to provide the required ID completely free of charge, then how is that impacting the rights or abilities of any legally qualified citizen to participate in the electoral process?
When people on the right start talking about welfare many on the left state that there are more whites on welfare then blacks.
Yet when voter ID comes along, the left says the poor blacks can't get a picture ID.
If there are more poor whites then poor blacks, how does getting a picture ID affect poor blacks more then poor whites?
Using public transportation, taxis, walking, riding a bike, or calling a friend who drives is stupid?
How about Harrier's proposed solutions above(which jmqueen responded to, but falsely states that Harrier never posted)that public funds be used to implement a "Dial a Ride" system for the elderly or infirm, or that some of you Democrats organize a volunteer organization that helps get people around?
In other words - why don't you seek solutions rather than play politics?
That is why jmqueen misrepresents Harrier - he heard exactly what Harrier said and didn't like it - because it challenged him to actually do something rather than throw mud.
Exactly. The state of Texas has now been given the green light to disenfranchise voters that cons don't like. I'm pleased to see you admit it.
And please clarify why the FEDERAL government should solve Texas' problem. I though you cons were all about state's rights and personal responsibility.
Texas doesn't have a problem.
We have buses in our cities and the CARTS program for rural.
Go worry about another state.
Modern day southerners shouldn't be singled out and eternally punished by the Federal Government for Jim Crow laws.
The north and west were some racist bastards too -- and you don't see them singled out by preclearance.
therefore, if racism really is a problem in voting, then let's have a voting rights act that applies preclearance to EVERY STATE. Or, let's not have one at all.
Actually it wasn't only the Southern states that were singled out. There were areas all around the country that also required pre-clearance.
Last edited by WilliamSmyth; 06-28-2013 at 12:59 PM..
Ah, another personal insult. Always useful when you know you're wrong.
I predict disenfranchisement, based on statistics. All logic and past history point to such a thing. No system can cover all the bases, and least of all in a huge state like Texas. I will happily provide proof when it does happen.
In the meantime, since you support this measure, it is incumbent on YOU prove to me that it won't. Please cite exactly how the state will reach out to every poor person across the entire state. And prove your 99.9999% statistic. Again, rectal data does not count.
I'll try to find the PEW study again, but of those that voted 98.7% had to show ID.
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Originally Posted by jmqueen
Exactly. The state of Texas has now been given the green light to disenfranchise voters that cons don't like. I'm pleased to see you admit it.
And please clarify why the FEDERAL government should solve Texas' problem. I though you cons were all about state's rights and personal responsibility.
Ok, I think you have gone off your meds.
Here are the requirements for NJ, CA, TN and TX. If you notice, they have the exact same requirements.
Harrier still hasn't told me why he hates legal citizens who don't have the means to get to these voter ID centers.
Or perhaps Harrier believes that's the price some people just have to pay so that states can crack down on statistically nonexistent voter fraud? Perhaps Harrier also hates veterans, and sick people, and old people, who will have difficulty getting to the voter ID center?
Anxiously waiting Harrier's explanation. Wait, what's that sound .... crickets?
"legal citizens who don't have the means to get to these voter ID centers."
Probably the same way they get to the doctor, or the grocery store, or the drug store, or any where else.
Or are you claiming ALL of them NEVER go anywhere out side of their homes?
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