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I've still yet to see who was denied a lung. Was there some other person on their deathbed in the next room and the doc popped his head and and said sorry bub the girl gets it? You folks don't understand the transplant procedures apparently. Or are just wailing because they tried to save a child, something liberals scream about doing on a daily basis to get their legislation passed but in reality they don't really care. Oh wait I forgot they care more about big government who had some rules in place. Big bro trumps all even saving a child's life.
About one person a day dies while waiting for a lung transplant. The just didn't cry on Fox News about it so you don't know them. BTW, many cases of adult lung transplants can be successfully done with just one lobe so four people could have died as a result of Sarah getting two full transplant.
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About one patient a day dies while waiting (~300/year). Lung transplant recipients have the lowest survival rate at 3 years being at 65%. This is explained by the complexity of managing those patients since the lungs are exposed to the outside world (the air we breathe) and put them at high risk for major infections. Repeated or untreated infection can permanently damage the new lung.
The federal judge who interfered with the transplant protocol. established by transplant surgeons and scientists, condemned two and possibly four others to death! That judge was acting as a death panel
I've still yet to see who was denied a lung. Was there some other person on their deathbed in the next room and the doc popped his head and and said sorry bub the girl gets it? You folks don't understand the transplant procedures apparently. Or are just wailing because they tried to save a child, something liberals scream about doing on a daily basis to get their legislation passed but in reality they don't really care. Oh wait I forgot they care more about big government who had some rules in place. Big bro trumps all even saving a child's life.
They don't publicize these things unless they have a big fat PR team like the Murnaghans.
We all want to save children. Kindly stop making things up. But sensible people know that once you trample on the rules (established by the medical community, NOT government, and which the government deferred to, only to be overturned by a JUDGE, not the medical community), then you have chaos.
The rules were established, by, you know, the medical community, to avoid free-for-alls over organs.
Now we will have free-for-alls, with lives depending on who's cutest and youngest, and who has the best PR team.
The fact that you cannot grasp this fundamental concept, but prefer to bloviate about "liberals who don't want to save children," surprises me not at all.
Let us know when you have something substantive to add to the discussion.
And BTW, my husband's wonderful, lovely cousin recently died in her mid-40s waiting for a lung. And she wasn't even a smoker -- she got another disease and the steroids they gave her to combat it destroyed her lungs.
So kindly stop pretending there aren't people out there just as deserving.
So again you don't know what your talking about. One may need a transplant but is passed over by one who needs one MORE. Happens every day with lungs, livers, kindeys etc. HER doctors declared they thought she should get the transplant. The judge agreed. Now apparently the board agrees and has is looking at situations like this on a case by case basis until next year when they will come up with some NEW guidelines. You see they even see that the guidelines that THEY set need some fixing up. You folks however think you know more than all these doctors. At least they are pulling back and taking a second look........because it appears they think a child's life is worth saving even if you folks don't think it is.
And BTW, my husband's wonderful, lovely cousin recently died in her mid-40s waiting for a lung. And she wasn't even a smoker -- she got another disease and the steroids they gave her to combat it destroyed her lungs.
So kindly stop pretending there aren't people out there just as deserving.
Well would the lung she got have gone to somebody else who didn't have a disease that needed medication that would destroy the new lungs?
Well would the lung she got have gone to somebody else who didn't have a disease that needed medication that would destroy the new lungs?
You keep saying ridiculous things.
Gee, do ya think they stopped giving her those steroids?
Or do you want to continue poking into why she had to die, so you can continue ranting about "liberals"?
Really, get over yourself and stop making up silly accusations. This isn't a political issue. It's a medical and ethical issue.
And by the way, SARAH'S doctors wanted her to have a lung because it's their job to do so. The entire REST of the medical community disagrees, because they know how the rules are supposed to work, but hey, never let facts get in the way of a good rant that has nothing to do with the subject.
Well would the lung she got have gone to somebody else who didn't have a disease that needed medication that would destroy the new lungs?
Also, that's not the issue. The issue is skipping ahead of the line because you have a good PR team. Nothing to do with the physical condition of the recipient.
BTW, KUchief25, are you an organ donor? I have been since I got my first driver's license a long, long time ago.
Also, that's not the issue. The issue is skipping ahead of the line because you have a good PR team. Nothing to do with the physical condition of the recipient.
BTW, KUchief25, are you an organ donor? I have been since I got my first driver's license a long, long time ago.
That is exactly what YOU have been arguing. Now it's not the issue? LOL
Yes I am an organ donor. As IF that has anything to do with the issue.
Gee, do ya think they stopped giving her those steroids?
Or do you want to continue poking into why she had to die, so you can continue ranting about "liberals"?
Really, get over yourself and stop making up silly accusations. This isn't a political issue. It's a medical and ethical issue.
And by the way, SARAH'S doctors wanted her to have a lung because it's their job to do so. The entire REST of the medical community disagrees, because they know how the rules are supposed to work, but hey, never let facts get in the way of a good rant that has nothing to do with the subject.
I don't know what they did. Apparently your genius doctors who know everything in your eyes destroyed her lungs based on what you said.
If they disagree why are taking these on a case by case basis now and looking at making changes to the policies in place? Wouldn't they just say oh well **** on the judge it was just a PR stunt and move on? Oops.
That is exactly what YOU have been arguing. Now it's not the issue? LOL
WTH are you talking about?
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Apparently those other people don't have PR teams. And there ARE other people. There's a huge LIST of other people, which you folks love to ignore.
Those organ patients also apparently aren't cute and female and young. Big difference, now that we've decided those are the criteria for getting attention and organs.
I'm not talking about the physical condition of the recipient, but the PR factor. I do believe it says so in that quote right there ....
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