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The center of the Russian community here in Los Angeles is along a stretch of Santa Monica Boulevard in and around West Hollywood - a gay mecca.
Perhaps the Russians have a positive influence - in that they act as somewhat of a containment buffer between the gay army fortress and the rest of the metro area.
If so, then spaciba!
Harrier should visit Silverlake and South Long Beach when Harrier gets the chance.
Just reported that the 9th circuit just lifted the stay, and will now allow same sex marriage in California.
Welcome to state run tyranny, where even when the people vote on the laws, the court overturns them, or the liberal politicians won't defend their laws.
Welcome to state run tyranny, where even when the people vote on the laws, the court overturns them, or the liberal politicians won't defend their laws.
You slept through civics class or something?
"The people" cannot pass laws that are unconstitutional.
The Court's role is to decide what is or is not unconstitutional. Just because YOU support it, doesn't mean it's constitutional.
The State did defend Prop 8 in Federal Court. The State lost the case.
Which case is that? Please provide a link.
Since you won't be able to find a case in which the state defended proposition 8 in Federal Court, Harrier will contribute to your acquiring a factual knowledge of the judicial history of Proposition 8 by posting the following brief description of Hollingsworth v. Perry.
Proposition 8 is challenged in federal district court on Constitutional grounds.
Plaintiffs Perry et al. name the Governor and Attorney General of California (among others) as defendants, each of whom declines to defend the Proposition. The original official proponents of Prop. 8 (hereinafter "Defendant-Intervenors") intervene to defend the ballot measure. The City and County of San Francisco intervenes as a plaintiff. On January 11, 2010, the matter comes to trial before Judge Vaughn Walker in the Northern District of California (No. 09-2292). Pursuant to rulings on motions and appeals by Defendant-Intervenors, who objected to recordation of the proceedings, the trial is video-recorded but not broadcast.
It appears that you believe that because the plaintiffs named two governors of California as defendants(Perry v. Schwarzenegger, Perry v. Brown) in the district court case, that this means that the state defended the case. The state officials declined to defend the case, and the initiative proponents became the defendants. The district and circuit courts acknowledged that they had standing to do so, while SCOTUS ruled that they did not have standing at the circuit court and higher, which resulted in them vacating the Ninth Circuit Court decision.
The State did defend Prop 8 in Federal Court. The State lost the case. A Non-State entity was allowed to argue Prop 8 in the Federal Court of Appeals and lost the case.
A State has never been obligated to take all cases or appeal cases they have lost.
But why didn't they defend it further? A neutrality policy that stops after the first loss? If there's no policy then that's just another sign on how stupid California is after allowing ballots to take away rights already granted. That's a big loophole.
I say one should defend one's constitution all the way up. Otherwise without a policy saying otherwise it will always be suspect to Executive override of the people's will which seems one thing the State was uninterested in.
"The people" cannot pass laws that are unconstitutional.
Correct. The logical conclusion however is that the people did pass the amendment therefore it was constitutional. California should fix that instead of yielding to the feds. What you are describing is ipso facto.
This is also why no-medical use marijuana is illegal in all 50 states. Let's see how many liberals agree with that.
But why didn't they defend it further? A neutrality policy that stops after the first loss? If there's no policy then that's just another sign on how stupid California is after allowing ballots to take away rights already granted. That's a big loophole.
I say one should defend one's constitution all the way up. Otherwise without a policy saying otherwise it will always be suspect to Executive override of the people's will which seems one thing the State was uninterested in.
They never did defend it. WilliamSmyth's post was incorrect, and Harrier set the record straight in post #144.
Governor's Schwarzenegger and Brown were named as defendants in Perry v. Schwarzenegger and Perry v. Brown, and both declined to defend Proposition 8, which is why the proponents of the proposition stepped into defend the constitutional amendment.
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Proposition 8 is challenged in federal district court on Constitutional grounds.
Plaintiffs Perry et al. name the Governor and Attorney General of California (among others) as defendants, each of whom declines to defend the Proposition. The original official proponents of Prop. 8 (hereinafter "Defendant-Intervenors") intervene to defend the ballot measure. The City and County of San Francisco intervenes as a plaintiff. On January 11, 2010, the matter comes to trial before Judge Vaughn Walker in the Northern District of California (No. 09-2292). Pursuant to rulings on motions and appeals by Defendant-Intervenors, who objected to recordation of the proceedings, the trial is video-recorded but not broadcast.
But - do they have a strong Russian community nearby?
Dude. Silverlake sits right next to an area (Hollywood) that has had a strong Russian community for DECADES.
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