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Old 06-30-2013, 08:55 PM
 
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Nonsense, many males, especially rural, took a perverse pride in not being educated. Should we now throw a pity party for their ignorant attitude?
Couldn't possible be because of any bias at work now could it. Nah, the boys just aren't cut out for it. Yet, men still dominate science and engineering.

"The data show, for the first time, that gender disparities in teacher grades start early and uniformly favor girls. In every subject area, boys are represented in grade distributions below where their test scores would predict.
The authors attribute this misalignment to what they called non-cognitive skills, or "how well each child was engaged in the classroom, how often the child externalized or internalized problems, how often the child lost control and how well the child developed interpersonal skills." They even report evidence of a grade bonus for boys with test scores and behavior like their girl counterparts.


Read more at: New research helps explain why girls do better in school"

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I would also add that if you are a parent you should send your boys to an all boys school. All boys' school graduates are 4 times more likely to attend college than boys that attend coed schools. The same goes for girls, especially looking at their performance in math and science.

  • boys in coed classes: 37% scored proficient
  • girls in coed classes: 59% scored proficient
  • girls in single-sex classes: 75% scored proficient
  • boys in single-sex classes: 86% scored proficient.

http://udini.proquest.com/view/the-c...id:2412710681/

A switch to same-sex classes in Newark is improving test scores | NJ.com
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...r-classes.html
Single-sex classes give scores a boost - Las Vegas Sun News
Scores improve if boys and girls are apart, some schools find » The Commercial Appeal
Girls do better without boys at school, study finds | Education | The Guardian
NCRegister | Statistics Show Benefits of Single-Sex Education
School Credits Turnaround To Same-Sex Classes | SmartBrief

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Couldn't be because of society's investment in women either.

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Affirmative action and quotas are usually based on demographics. Engineering firms still have to seek out women and still need to spend time developing female leaders even if they have a better qualified male candidate. Colleges have alot of outreach programs and funding available for women, but not that much for men.

Take this site for example, 64 programs available for men vs 200 for women.

Scholarships for Women | Scholarship Directory | ScholarshipExperts.com

26 for men here:
Scholarships for men

130 for women here:
Scholarships for women

When a society invests in a particular group it really shouldn't shock people if that group performs better.
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Couldn't possible be because of any bias at work now could it.
No bias, just distorted values towards education, especially in rural parts.
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:31 AM
 
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Nonsense, many males, especially rural, took a perverse pride in not being educated. Should we now throw a pity party for their ignorant attitude?
that's true for sure, and when I was a kid it was considered 'uncool' to go to uni, though that's changed now fortunately.

but still, this equality idea is nonsense as a girl has many advantages over a man, not least the power of sex - shouldn't they get paid LESS because of that?
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:12 AM
 
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Nonsense, many males, especially rural, took a perverse pride in not being educated. Should we now throw a pity party for their ignorant attitude?
Yes, we should throw a pity party equivalent to the sort of pity party thrown over things like the "Gender wage gap."

It's bizarre to me how when girls fall short, it is "the fault of society," yet when boys fall short, the boys are labeled 'ignorant'. (As if adolescent boys are expected to be self-taught!) There really are two totally different sets of standards and expectations.

When a field is 90% male, like computer engineering, then it's due to male bias and oppressiveness. When a field is 90% female, like elementary school teaching, that's men's fault for not becoming elementary school teachers.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:45 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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The real question is where is the right wing outrage that a woman was let out of the kitchen and allowed to have a job?
LOL ... No comments. Although I am Conservative in many ways, I like the fact that I am able to get an education and hold a job, I am very glad I am financially independent. I am a little feminist (Love men, not a men hater by any means).
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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This is why non-college educated, low-IQ conservative males are starting to hate "feminism" (despite not knowing the meaning of the term). They are being left behind, due to their failure to adapt in a rapidly changing world.
Interesting comment. So when women were earning less and unable to compete in the market, we spent billions on awareness campaigns, affirmative action, training programs, scholarships, etc. But now that men are getting in that situation, we just show contempt for them.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Study: Young, Single, Childless Women Earn More Than Men - TIME

What happened to equal work, equal pay, liberals?
Outrage? Isn't this what they have been fighting for? They are probably celebrating.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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Didn't anyone read the article?

The guy who did the research "attributes the earnings reversal overwhelmingly to one factor: education. For every two guys who graduate from college or get a higher degree, three women do. This is almost the exact opposite of the graduation ratio that existed when the baby boomers entered college. Studies have consistently shown that a college degree pays off in much higher wages over a lifetime, and even in many cases for entry-level positions. "

end of story.

Read more: Study: Young, Single, Childless Women Earn More Than Men - TIME
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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If word of this gets out, conservatives will expand their war on woman and demand for laws making it illegal for them to make more than minimum wage and taxing them for not being pregnant.
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