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The state believes GZ is innocent and is purposely letting this case unravel.
They only brought charges because the Governor and other Politicians forced the issues.
They are getting the true testimony from the local cops who investigated the case.
Those cops believe it was self defense.
I think the cops are angry because they didn't even think there was enough probable cause to arrest Zimmerman. Their judgment and the quality of their investigation is now receiving international attention and they're resentful.
For example, on HLN they were just saying that the gun should have been tested for DNA on far more locations than it was.
Both the female and male primary investigator seemed to be against the prosecution, which is highly unusual.
No murder 2, for sure, but it could be reduced to manslaughter. The other testimony was somewhat helpful to the defense, but this testimony caught Zimmerman in a lie.
I would be ok with a manslaughter conviction - as long as he is held responsible in some way for what happened that night.
I would call today a draw. The prosecution picked up a little steam, but imo, the goofy lady who diagnosed George by looking at pictures cost them any credibility they might have picked up.
Just my opinion.
Not to mention there is no way, period, of determining injuries inside George's head without proper Xray or similar equipment.
I blew her off entirely and dozed off. I'll watch the YouTube of her testimony later if I get a sudden urge for stupid.
My guess is there are many incidents of people dying from head injuries with nary a scratch on the outside.
But there was a non-goofy lady that diagnosed George via pictures you had no issues with?
Maybe he carries a gun in case some makes a grab at food. It looks like GZ can't seem to eat enough.
on a serious note. Carrying a gun isn't a bad thing or indicate someone is a bad or weak person. Unfortunately to many wanna be heroes are out there. You meet them at the range. They shoot 10 inch groups at a silhouette target from 10 yards and they think they are hot.
The majority of us gun owners actually take the time to learn to shoot our weapons well.
GZ wouldn't have needed to carry a gun if he knew how to defend himself...
a gun made 5'7 204lb GZ a "big" man...
People carry for many different reasons. I always ask why when people come to my classes, and the most common answer is that people don't want to rely on police that are several minutes away when seconds count. More and more people are choosing to make personal safety their own responsibility. You would be surprised at the increase of women that I train these days.
Do you know how many men and women carry a concealed handgun just in your state ? Millions
You never see it because it's concealed.
Don't call Florida the stupid people state my state!I live here now...NYC is where I'm from...and lived there for 35 years under some really dumb mayors like Dinkins...and never needed to carry a gun...!
That is a factually incorrect statement. There is one witness who saw part of their fight. Other witnesses heard parts if it and one saw TM dead with GZ straddled over him. If there were so many witnesses who saw him get attacked, there would be no trial. The truth is, NOT ONE witness saw him get attacked.
A huge problem with our society today is the instant reprisal towards those that seek to pounce on the truth.
That is a factually incorrect statement. There is one witness who saw part of their fight. Other witnesses heard parts if it and one saw TM dead with GZ straddled over him. If there were so many witnesses who saw him get attacked, there would be no trial. The truth is, NOT ONE witness saw him get attacked.
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Originally Posted by katzpaw
Its amazing that GZ did nothing to defend himself - except pull his gun at the end. The fight traveled about 50 feet, GZ threw no punches, and let his head get repeatedly slammed into the sidewalk. He had the big flashlight in his hand the whole time (it was found beside TM's body) yet claims he was sucker punched 50 feet away and makes no mention of fighting back - just the wimpy waving in the re-enactment.
When the jury hears the law that pertains to self defense in Florida in closing arguments, they will understand that in the moment you don't get to evaluate your injuries when deciding if to use lethal force. You simply have to reasonably believe you may die or suffer great bodily harm. That is the law here.
Yeah but those ladies aren't going to believe GZ had a reasonable belief that he was going to die and suffer great bodily harm. Prosecution did a good job of showing his injuries were insignificant. I see guys take a worst beating in MMA fights all the time. I think the stuff about TM saying "You're going to die tonight" and supposedly that TM was reaching for his gun, are complete lies. GZ knows the laws, and from the start was trying to build a case that he felt his life was threatened.
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!I live here now...NYC is where I'm from...and lived there for 35 years under some really dumb mayors like Dinkins...and never needed to carry a gun...!