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Old 07-01-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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California's economy is larger than most countries..... 8th or 9th if it were it's own country.....
Yep.. But do you really think California's budgets need to be larger than most nations when they aren't required to have a military, nor fund things like Social Security?
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Yep.. But do you really think California's budgets need to be larger than most nations when they aren't required to have a military, nor fund things like Social Security?
They have their own responsibilities to CA citizens like America has responsibilities for their citizens. Some sort of hierarchy or whatever...
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:35 PM
 
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Just making a comment. Struck a nerve maybe? How do you feel about state's right to enact their own laws?
Struck a nerve? What are you going on about now?
I feel states will pass bad laws just as the fed guv does, but will be less likely so as smaller guv is closer to the will of the people.
Noted that you now trying to shift away from your earlier assumption that a belief in states rights means tacit agreement in all that it does.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:49 PM
 
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They have their own responsibilities to CA citizens like America has responsibilities for their citizens. Some sort of hierarchy or whatever...
And two of the largest expenditures to nations are social security, and military spending, which California doesn't have..
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:00 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Struck a nerve? What are you going on about now?
I feel states will pass bad laws just as the fed guv does, but will be less likely so as smaller guv is closer to the will of the people.
So how does this affect you besides getting to jab a state that doesn't fit your ideological view?


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Noted that you now trying to shift away from your earlier assumption that a belief in states rights means tacit agreement in all that it does.
All that from a few posts of mine huh.....

Again.... what does California have to do with you?
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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And two of the largest expenditures to nations are social security, and military spending, which California doesn't have..
And most state's are grappling with pensions and such..... What's your point?

As for the country.... based on your claim we need to reform SS and reign in military spending.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Pghquest is correct; revenue is NOT a problem with California's current fiscal quagmire--it's spending, and job-killing regulations that won't stop coming, and this multi-decade assault on the middle class which Democrats from Sacramento to Springfield, IL. to Albany to the current occupant of the White House have religiously believed in, and have been protected by the likes of Paul Krugman and the rest of their liberal media retards.

Raising taxes NEVER results in an increase in revenue; Brown is going to be just as shocked when their projection of a six billion dollar increase in revenue from Prop. 30 misses the mark by 80% at the end of this year, just as Obama & Co. will also be shocked when the expected gusher of new revenue from the increase in the capital gains tax rate fails to materialize.

The #1 reason for gasoline being $54.15/gallon here in LA as opposed to $3.25 in Dallas & Houston can be summarized in two words--environmental obstructionism.

And Brown has been a job-killing environmental extremist long before Prop. 13 passed in 1978!!!!!

Ditto for our sky-high housing prices; environmentalists have succeeded in removing hundreds of billions of acres of land statewide from being developed thanks to their slow-growth and no-growth fanatacism, and the Democrats in Sacramento who've been running the state for over three decades have rolled over while offering no resistance whatsoever.

That's also why Texas is getting 400+ new Carls Jr./Hardees restaurants over the rest of this decade and not California; when it takes 60 days to complete the process of acquiring all necessary permits in Texas as opposed to 285 days in California as their CEO related to the WSJ on June 29th, where would YOU expand your business and put more people to work?

That's why California's economy has sunk from the world's fifth largest to the tenth largest, and that downward trend is bound to continue now that the Democrats can tax and spend this state into oblivion, just as they've done to IL, NY, MI, CT, OH & numerous other liberal-created economic basket cases.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Heard it on the news this evening. state officials say its because revenues for roadways has dropped with vehicles being more fuel efficient. Its been discussed for sometime likely we will see this but many are looking at it being by road usage to make it more dependent on usage than just amount of gasoline.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Heard it on the news this evening. state officials say its because revenues for roadways has dropped with vehicles being more fuel efficient. Its been discussed for sometime likely we will see this but many are looking at it being by road usage to make it more dependent on usage than just amount of gasoline.
Hey Dave... Those Californians really love their Taxes, they just can't get enough of them.

Makes me glad to be a Texan, how about you ?
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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We don't need no education!...
Spoken like a southerner.
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