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Old 07-01-2013, 02:59 PM
 
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women in america have the right to control their own reproductive organs. don't like it too bad. women do not have to live their life by any one's standards and morals but their own.


I LOVE the fact women control their bodies, It when they just don't control it when it's time to control that bothers me. then it becomes a wicked act.




then they make a dumb decision to kill it, like a roach. How uninspiring.
still avoiding the questions I see
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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women in america have the right to control their own reproductive organs. don't like it too bad. women do not have to live their life by any one's standards and morals but their own.


I LOVE the fact women control their bodies, It when they just don't control it when it's time to control that bothers me. then it becomes a wicked act.




then they make a dumb decision to kill it, like a roach. How uninspiring.
Well then by all means quit wasting your time in the basement pounding on a keyboard & get out there & scoop up some of those children your whining about & raise them.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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we went wrong by electing idiots. the current white house dolt has an IQ of under 40.
Really?
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:03 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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we went wrong by electing idiots. the current white house dolt has an IQ of under 40. when you elect george bush light, you deserve george bush light. did I mention obama is also a racist?

Ain't that the freakin' truth!!!!
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:05 PM
 
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what do you purpose we do about women who don't want to remain pregnant? shall we house them in armed guarded breeding camps where they are forced to remain pregnant and give birth?

you willing to support these children with your taxes once they are born? you want to support sex education and low cost birth control for any one sexually active?

I say fine them. and here's how it would work:

You don't want your baby?, Fine, then you put it up for adoption and pay the costs to house it until Adoption services can find a home for him/her. OR you take that baby home and work your butt off to raise it...Those are your only 2 options.

With decisions comes consquences. Make the right ones, you're good. Make the wrong ones,you pay up.

Just like DWI, and any other crime.....Abortion should be a crimiinal offense.

THEN see how many loose women are running around after that.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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nonsense. it only takes up until their next cycle to find out. all they have to do is miss one cycle.
Nonsense, I am a woman, that had a fully planned pregnancy, and didn't know until I was 10 weeks pregnant. And that was with doctors checking hormone levels weekly.
I also had very irregular cycles, and could go for months with only a little spotting. Even while pregnant this didn't change until around 18 weeks, then started again a few weeks before delivery.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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The reasons to doubt your cause, are the same why socialism is a pipe dream

The idea that everyone in the United States has the capability and responsibility to have kids, raise kids, or own firearms is a crazy fallacy. Not everyone, regardless on how you deem personal responsibility, is qualified.

We, the citizens of the worlds, have established institutions known as governments to provide security to individuals. Why? Because if we leave it to no police, no legislation, no security. . .we spin into a rabbit whole of self destruction. The only thing that has allowed mankind to work together is the idea of governments and share protection to some extent or another.

Plus you talk of two items (Abortion and gun rights) which are very similar in that a mistake is not solely a mistake of the individual. An unwanted child, becomes a criminal and burden on society (see the impact of Roe v Wade on crime) a gun can kill multiple (see Adam Lanza). Society must balance the freedom with the cost to live within the society.


You assume all should/can have personal responsibility without accounting for the fact that personal responsibility is not a trait guaranteed by God in humans


If we could guarantee personal responsibility, we wouldn't need locks, police, or weapons of war.
Personal Responsibility is taught to all of us, Even deadbeat parents and crackheads know what it is. Even the Television shows try to teach it, so there is NO EXCUSE for not having it. NONE.

If you can pay a light bill, or put gas in your car, that shows Personal Responsibility. So there is no excuse not to have it.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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I say fine them. and here's how it would work:
fine someone for not wanting a baby?

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You don't want your baby?,
Yes, a woman doesn't her pregnancy.

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Fine, then you put it up for adoption and pay the costs to house it until Adoption services can find a home for him/her. OR to take that baby home and work your butt off to raise it...Those are your only 2 options.
and who is going to pay for the forced hospitalization for at least 6 months (cause you're going to have watch these women 24/7 making sure they see their pregnancy through)

surely not the pregnant woman who is being forced to have a baby she doesn't want.

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With decisions comes consquences.
Yes, and one of those consequences is choosing to have an abortion or not.

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Make the right ones, you're good. Make the wrong ones,you pay up.
and having the ability to make a choice, and choosing an abortion which would be a right decision for the woman involved, IS never a wrong decision.

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Just like DWI, and any other crime.....Abortion should be a crimiinal offense.
It will never be a criminal offense. States tried that once. and the USSC shut them down.
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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I say fine them. and here's how it would work:

You don't want your baby?, Fine, then you put it up for adoption and pay the costs to house it until Adoption services can find a home for him/her. OR to take that baby home and work your butt off to raise it...Those are your only 2 options.

With decisions comes consquences. Make the right ones, you're good. Make the wrong ones,you pay up.

Just like DWI, and any other crime.....Abortion should be a crimiinal offense.

THEN see how many loose women are running around after that.
you still didn't answer the questions...how are you gonna keep women pregnant if they don't want to be. forcing a woman to remain pregnant, labor and deliver a baby against her will sounds like nazi germany.

you are obviously a man, as any woman who has ever been pregnant and given birth would never so cavalierly suggest that it is easy. pregnancy can be life threatening.

how callous you are to think giving a baby up for adoption is easy

now think hard take your head out of the third world and answer the questions...
what do you want done with women who do not want to remain pregnant
do you support through your taxes supporting babies born to women/families that can't afford to feed and house them, since abortion in your book isn't an option.
do you support sex ed in school and low cost or free birth controls
and one more....
why should your values and opinions mean anything to women you don't even know?
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Old 07-01-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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Eh, it's obvious the OP is a previously banned poster & this is a you know what thread. What a yawn fest.
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