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The woman has the option to abort if the baby is not wanted. Men know this, as it's not a closely-guarded secret.
Just as slaveowners once had the option to sell a slave, or even kill him, if the slaveowner wanted to. That was also not a closely-guarded secret.
However, it was a gross miscarriage of justice. And was corrected in due time.
The same is true for the option to abort a baby. The woman is currently the only one legally allowed to make that decision. But should not be. The man, who is partly responsible for the baby's existence, should also have part of the responsibility for making that decision.
Men have zero rights if they do not want a baby, but the woman chooses not to abort. In that event, the man is forced to financially support something they do not want, which is the very definition of involuntary servitude.
Since it is her choice to abort or give birth, if the man disagrees his rights must be recognized to. If a guy doesnt want a baby, but the woman chooses to have it, it forces him into involuntary servitude.
Accidental pregnancy happens alot, if the woman chooses to have the baby and the man does not want a child, then the woman needs to take 100% responsibility for her choice.
Kind of like him having involuntary sex? Maybe he slipped on a wet floor and plummeted, penis-first, into the woman? Maybe he was forced to have sex at gunpoint by al Qaeda?
He knows the risks going in, my friend.
Don't want involuntary servitude? Get snipped. Keep your pants on. Worship at the altar of Onan and Rosie Palm.
Problem solved.
Just as slaveowners once had the option to sell a slave, or even kill him, if the slaveowner wanted to. That was also not a closely-guarded secret.
However, it was a gross miscarriage of justice. And was corrected in due time.
The same is true for the option to abort a baby. The woman is currently the only one legally allowed to make that decision. But should not be. The man, who is partly responsible for the baby's existence, should also have part of the responsibility for making that decision.
if the man is responsible for the baby's existence, he can find an alternative incubation method. Women are not obligated to be incubators if they choose not to be.
Not so. Men who "do not want a baby", should keep it zipped, and/or get a vasectomy or other male contraception, and/or choose a woman who has decided she wants to use birth control sufficient to insure she will not have a baby.
If he does not do at least one of those things, then he IS partly responsible (as is the woman) for the baby that results.
Similarly, if a man "does not want" an innocet person near him to accidentally die, then that man should either (a) not pick up a gun, or (b) make sure a gun he picks up is not loaded EVERY time, or (c) make sure the gun is pointed in a safe direction EVERY time, etc. If the man fails to do those things, and a gun in his hand goes off and a person near him dies from his gunshot, then the man is responsible for that person's death WHETHER HE WANTED THAT PERSON DEAD OR NOT.
For the same reason, a man who causes a pregnancy, is partly responsible for the fate of the baby, whether he wanted the pregnancy to happen or not. (The woman is the other "partly", since she could have done things to prevent the pregnancy also, but failed to do so just as the man failed).
Paging Marty McFly. Paging Marty McFly, we think you had a few stowaways when you came back from the 50s. The space time continuum is in mortal danger of corruption. Please take them back.
The least the man can do is to pay to help raise the child he voluntarily took the risk to create.
Nope.
For the reasons I gave, that is NOT the "least the man can do".
The least the man can do, is work with the woman on ALL aspects he can on the pregnancy (including the two of them making vital decisions on the baby's welfare), AND pay to help raise the child he voluntarily took the risk to create, AND help to support the woman (as the woman supports the man) who is also doing her part, AND help to raise and nurture the child himself (as the woman also nurtures the child).
THAT is "the least the man can do". And it IS done by the large majority of men who help create a child.
The fact that a smaller minority of men choose to shirk their responsibility and run away, does not change what he SHOULD do. Nor does it change the responsibility of the large majority of men who DO do those things.
Something two people should discuss before engaging in sexual intercourse. A woman doesn't even have to tell a man that she's pregnant. Another good reason to be selective with where you plant (intentionally or accidentally) your seeds.
Already refuted. Pregnancies happen to couples. Pregnancies NEVER happen to a woman alone.
In fact, that is the primary reason for the invention of marriage.
That is a secondary reason for the invention of marriage, far less important that the primary reason, specified above.
Do provide some PROOF, not opinion, for your comments.
If you can, that is.
Opinions don't count!
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