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It takes TWO(2) PEOPLE male/female to make a baby so at the very least you are bound by the males' decision to abort or not, because it's HIS baby too. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
When the "male" can remove the fetus from me and incubate it himself, then it is his choice. Any man I sleep with knows that if birth control fails, abortion is the only option (financially and for my health). He makes an educated decision based off of that data.
It takes TWO(2) PEOPLE male/female to make a baby so at the very least you are bound by the males' decision to abort or not, because it's HIS baby too. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
It takes TWO(2) PEOPLE male/female to make a baby so at the very least you are bound by the males' decision to abort or not, because it's HIS baby too. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
Any questions?
Awww, sweetie, no. No, you're mistaken. Here's why.
The woman bears the brunt of pregnancy, childbirth and childrearing. It's entirely up to her. Talk to me when men can get gestational diabetes, dangerous hypertension, abdominal separation, deep vein thrombosis, hyperemesis gravidarum, Bell's Palsy, prolapsed uterus (think of your penis turning inside out) and a veritable plethora of other ailments and conditions during pregnancy, up to and including death.
You want a guy whose sole contribution is a grunt and an 'Oh, baby!' to have an equal say in the matter? I don't think so.
When the "male" can remove the fetus from me and incubate it himself, then it is his choice. Any man I sleep with knows that if birth control fails, abortion is the only option (financially and for my health). He makes an educated decision based off of that data.
Men have exactly the same right to reproductive matters. The child comes from the man 50% - The child comes from the woman 50%. Financially? If you look at children as a cost issue--- You should never have children...as for "health" - What are you talking about? Your physical health? Your mental health? Of the discomfort and chore of carrying a child. Being pregnant is not a disease or illness.
It takes TWO(2) PEOPLE male/female to make a baby so at the very least you are bound by the males' decision to abort or not, because it's HIS baby too. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
Any questions?
Then he can figure out a way to carry it and give birth if he wants to keep it and she doesn't.
The leftists have been desperately avoiding this argument for years.
In fact, women aren't the only ones who make a pregnancy. COUPLES make a pregnancy. Just because one has the ability to run away and hide later, and the other doesn't, doesn't mean that both shouldn't carry the responsibility equally. And responsibility includes the decision-making about the fate of the baby.
Some women have been trying hard to pretend that pregnancy is something that happened to THEM, not to the baby. This lie has allowed many of those babies to be killed.
Most men hang right in there for all 9 months (and far beyond) to help the woman, support the baby, bring up and educate the child (helped along by an institution called "marriage", designed for the purpose). But there are some, a relative minority, who don't. This relatively small number, enable lawmakers to paint with a broad brush and pretend that ALL the men should be barred from participating in vital decisions about the fate of their child.
Last edited by Little-Acorn; 07-02-2013 at 12:36 PM..
The leftists have been desperately avoiding this argument for years.
In fact, women aren't the only ones who make a pregnancy. COUPLES make a pregnancy. Just because one has the ability to run away and hide later, and the other doesn't, doesn't mean that both shouldn't carry the responsibility equally. And responsibility includes the decision-making about the fate of the baby.
Some women have been trying hard to pretend that pregnancy is something that happened to THEM, not to the baby. This lie has allowed many of those babies to be killed.
Though most men hang right in there for all 9 months (and far beyond) to help the woman, support the baby, bring up and educate the child, there are some (a relative minority) who don't. This relatively small number, enable lawmakers to paint with a broad brush and pretend that ALL the men should be barred from participating in vital decisions about the fate of their child.
Hm, I could have sworn that the correct rightwing narrative was "fatherless (black) families are destroying America."
It takes TWO(2) PEOPLE male/female to make a baby so at the very least you are bound by the males' decision to abort or not, because it's HIS baby too. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
Any questions?
Conception requires a female ovum and a male's sperm but it also requires a uterus and nine months of gestation and like they say, possession is 9/10ths of the law. So until a fetus attains viability the ownership equation isn't what you would call 50/50.
Of course this raises another question. Once given does it follow that a man retains ownership of his sperm? Does a man bear responsibility for any pathogens that pass along to a female as a result of the transfer of their infected sperm or semen? On the face of it that may seem facetious but it would be the logical regression of the argument.
While I think that a man should have a say regarding an abortion, having a say is not the same as having the power of decision. Should a man who has sex with a woman during a some night stand have that power? Wouldn't the nature of their relationship come into play? Was the expressed purpose of their intercourse be a factor? Should a man who has engages in sexual intercourse for pleasure be given such power? I think not. Perhaps if the sexual encounter was for the expressed and agreed upon purpose of conceiving a child there might be a substantive argument, otherwise, I don't think that a man should have the power of ultimate decision.
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