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Conservatives make it a moral issue that we need to protect life, every life is valuable, every child needs to be protected... until that child is born. Once that baby's out of the mother, their tune turns to "Eff you baby AND your mother."
How can Conservatives say w/ a straight face that every child's life is precious, and at the same time actively try to strip all the protections in place to ensure that child has the basics it needs for a healthy childhood?
Cuts to school lunch programs? Cuts to SNAP benefits? Cuts to centers that provide services to newborn & young children?
What kind of depravity does it take to force someone to bring a mouth that they can't afford into the world, then abandon that family to their own devices once you realize it costs YOU money?
Because children have souls unlike moonbats who kill them because they couldn't kept their legs together or they maxed out on welfare benefits? How does that grab you for a bit of reality?
I gave three scenarios where the direct impact is what is listed:
1. Cutting funding to school lunch programs
2. Cutting SNAP benefits
3. Cutting funding to centers that provide post-natal & early childhood services.
What am I lying about?
The lies most easily defended are lies of omission.
If you add a little distortion and target the dumbest audience you can find, you could be the next President of the United States.
This is an example of the "Or I'll shoot the bunny" argument in favor of abortion.
Essentially the argument contends that the reason women with unintended pregnancies get abortions is because the opponents of abortion have taken away the social safety nets these women need to raise their unplanned children.
There are a number of problems with the "Or I'll shoot the bunny" argument.
The first problem is the contention that these women actually want to complete their pregnancy and raise these children.
Women terminate pregnancies because they don't want to be pregnant, and as prospective adoptive parents often have to wait two years or more for a newborn and will typically absorb all the cost associated with the pregnancy and delivery, the real issue is simply stretch marks.
The next problem is that these programs are available regardless of any real or imagined opposition to them.
The third problem is that our kids, to include those on general assistance and free lunch programs, are fat.
In fact, they've never been fatter with their parents often scrambling at month's end to use up all the remaining Bridge Card (SNAP) benefits so the generous monthly allotment isn't reduced.
As for post-natal and early childhood services, children raised on general assistance and those from other low-income households receive Medicaid, and with that, their households receive a stack of other freebies like cell phones, section eight housing, energy assistance, clothing allowances, automobile repair vouchers, etc.
Numerous studies have been done that confirm families receiving general assistance and all the other government handouts that accompany it fare much better than working class families.
Many people understand that government advertising benefits for what was once considered failure is effectively buying votes with borrowed money.
Since this creates an unsustainable road to financial ruin, concerned individuals would like to take us back to an era of personal responsibility and prudence.
Exactly how do Conservatives "strip all the protections in place to ensure that the child has the basics for a healthy childhood?
Pre-K? Head Start? WIC? Free lunch for everyone and now breakfast too, what services?
Don't you worry that the mother and father of that child should have some responsibility to make their child a lunch? pick them up from school, take them home or to the local library to study?
Has Head Start worked? The GSA said it has been a huge failure. What about WIC, SNAP, etc....now it's free Pre-K....at what point does "we are broke" come into the equation?
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Originally Posted by janelle144
Obama has put a ton of debt on the shoulders of the kids born today. He and the presidents before him. How is that helping and taking care of our kids? I think the last time we had a balanced budget was when Clinton was in office and he had a Republican Congress.
You can't say you want to help kids and then do that to them. They won't even be able to have a decent life.
I'm going to say that school lunches and doctor's visit have a bigger impact on a child's development than the public debt.
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Originally Posted by J. Pederman
Because they were told to be by their pastors and chosen media figures, and like the good little Eichmanns they are they obey without question. After Roe abortion was picked as the wedge issue to replace segregation to get idiots to the polls; as late as 1974 the Southern Baptist Convention was officially pro-choice until they realized it was an easier sell than white supremacy.
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Originally Posted by petch751
If this were republicans demanding abortion rights after 24 weeks the left would scream extermination.
What?
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Originally Posted by DoD Guy
Why do libs even care about the death penalty?
Its all just about showing each other up, that's why.
What?
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Originally Posted by momonkey
The lies most easily defended are lies of omission.
If you add a little distortion and target the dumbest audience you can find, you could be the next President of the United States.
This is an example of the "Or I'll shoot the bunny" argument in favor of abortion.
Essentially the argument contends that the reason women with unintended pregnancies get abortions is because the opponents of abortion have taken away the social safety nets these women need to raise their unplanned children.
There are a number of problems with the "Or I'll shoot the bunny" argument.
The first problem is the contention that these women actually want to complete their pregnancy and raise these children.
Women terminate pregnancies because they don't want to be pregnant, and as prospective adoptive parents often have to wait two years or more for a newborn and will typically absorb all the cost associated with the pregnancy and delivery, the real issue is simply stretch marks.
The next problem is that these programs are available regardless of any real or imagined opposition to them.
The third problem is that our kids, to include those on general assistance and free lunch programs, are fat.
In fact, they've never been fatter with their parents often scrambling at month's end to use up all the remaining Bridge Card (SNAP) benefits so the generous monthly allotment isn't reduced.
As for post-natal and early childhood services, children raised on general assistance and those from other low-income households receive Medicaid, and with that, their households receive a stack of other freebies like cell phones, section eight housing, energy assistance, clothing allowances, automobile repair vouchers, etc.
Numerous studies have been done that confirm families receiving general assistance and all the other government handouts that accompany it fare much better than working class families.
Many people understand that government advertising benefits for what was once considered failure is effectively buying votes with borrowed money.
Since this creates an unsustainable road to financial ruin, concerned individuals would like to take us back to an era of personal responsibility and prudence.
All that and you missed the point. To sum up your point "meh... we've already done enough. Eff them."
Conservatives make it a moral issue that we need to protect life, every life is valuable, every child needs to be protected... until that child is born. Once that baby's out of the mother, their tune turns to "Eff you baby AND your mother."
How can Conservatives say w/ a straight face that every child's life is precious, and at the same time actively try to strip all the protections in place to ensure that child has the basics it needs for a healthy childhood?
Cuts to school lunch programs? Cuts to SNAP benefits? Cuts to centers that provide services to newborn & young children?
What kind of depravity does it take to force someone to bring a mouth that they can't afford into the world, then abandon that family to their own devices once you realize it costs YOU money?
HUH? What happened to a parent or parents providing for the child. What's with all these hand-outs? Why should we keep paying taxes to people who don't provide for their own kids? This is sick. This is Obama's creepy entitlements. Get off your butts and provide for them. too much government guy and too many taxes. If this is what you like, you're a loser, just like Obama who's only job was a community organizer and he FAILED at that. By the way abortion is m u r d e r. Ask God.
Charlie Brown had a better shot at kicking the football than the conservs have at getting Roe v Wade overturned, after several decades of trying. All it does is create the female gender gap GOP problem every election day.
I don't fault conservatives for worrying about abortion. What I think is stupid is how most who are pro-life are also the most anti-contraceptive. That doesn't make any sense.
HUH? What happened to a parent or parents providing for the child. What's with all these hand-outs? Why should we keep paying taxes to people who don't provide for their own kids? This is sick. This is Obama's creepy entitlements. Get off your butts and provide for them. too much government guy and too many taxes. If this is what you like, you're a loser, just like Obama who's only job was a community organizer and he FAILED at that. By the way abortion is m u r d e r. Ask God.
obama is a two term president of the USA pretty successful man, far from a failure.
btw abortion is not murder. which god should I ask?
I'd like to see you try and legislate that. C'mon do it...I know you want to. I love it when conservatives make statements like this. It's plain to see they STILL don't get it. How much farther away from reality do these people need to drift before they finally wake up? I have no idea but it's fun to watch!
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pretty successful man, far from a failure.
