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Old 07-04-2013, 12:06 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Thanks- the supposed opposition want to paint those in disagreement as bad people that those who think for themselves are "bigots" - I do not wish to harm anyone--- nor do I want to see anyone oppressed...but please let people discriminate and have educated decisions based on the information they have gathered...Those of us on CD for the most part are good sensible people...all we seek whether left minded or right is moderation. Extremism stinks...there are always elements of insanity when we go to far in one direction....Why is it that the words of Martin Luther King are forgotten.....to judge the person by the character of the person - that everything is about the individual- that the individual is sacred...more so than the collective herd...


"I have not come to save the whole flock of sheep...but I seek out that one sheep that has fallen into the pit"




Right there says it all - The idea of the common good is BS...When the rights of ONE individual are trampled upon the whole collective is tainted..


These special interest lobby types who seek power by swelling their ranks into a kind of majority - who attack the individual are called one thing - Fascists.............What is bothering people about the gay rights movement is that it seems to have gone far enough...any more and they as we witness become a dominating force..............NO ONE WANTS TO BE CONTROLLED...Gays and Lesbians and their supporters will never achieve the numbers they want in order to gain social and political control...There will be blow back..


Just like all of us- be happy with what you have and settle in.
King also supported rights for gay people. No minority should have their rights abridged because of a majority, ever.

 
Old 07-04-2013, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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That's not a church. It's a meeting house for homosexuals.
It is so super-wonderful that we have a guy like you here who can sit in judgment of everybody and everything and point to who is a "real" Christian and who is not, or what is a "true" church and what is not.

Without you being personally empowered and filled with more wisdom and insight than the mediocre rest of us, so many of us out here would be wandering lost in the darkness.

Thank you for your willingness to sit in judgment over everything.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 03:05 AM
 
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I guess burning crosses and lynchings are also showings of "art" to you
that comment was out of left field.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 03:39 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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These people should turn the other cheek and push forward against this hate, just like chik-fil-a has done when theur stores were similarly vandalized by hateful people.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Same old rhetorical response. Why is that those on the progressive left assume that all those who do not like homosexuality- find it unpleasant - do not want to promote or support it - are all closet homosexuals? It's not about sexuality - It's animal instinct. Those who resist aggressive homosexual lobbyists and activists - are just like animals protecting their turf...their territory. It's natural...to ward of what might be strange and intrusive.
Well, I find the thought of two morbidly obese people coupling "unpleasant", but I would never dream of denying these people their rights or decrying their unions. Regardless of whether you find it unpleasant or not, they won't be copulating in your living room, so what business is it of yours?
I do see bigots giving this "unpleasantness" a whole lot of thought. An inordinate amount of thought. Some seen downright obsessed with it.
I wonder why that is......
 
Old 07-04-2013, 03:54 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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There will be an unfortunate backlash. I suggest, out of genuine concern, that gays who have been outspoken for gay rights keep a low profile and back off now that your battle has been won. There are some really angry people out there.

I'm guessing the whole thing has been staged.

Saul Alinsky, your life is calling!


"A lesbian couple who claimed they were victims of a hate crime have been arrested after police determined they staged the incidents."

Lesbian Couple Charged With Staging Hate Crime


"A black Anoka resident who three days ago reported the burning of a cross on his lawn was charged Friday with setting the blaze himself in a search for sympathy and money."

'Victim' of cross burning in Anoka now faces charges | StarTribune.com


"Anti-Arab hate messages had been spray-painted on the restaurant walls. Police arrested two men shortly after the blaze was set. One of the men smelled of gasoline and in his pocket he had the protective tops normally used to protect flares, according to a police report."

Oregon Cities, Towns, Counties & Communities - OregonLive.com


"Samuel White, a black man, has been charged with arson. In October 2005, he burnt down his own house and spray painted racial slurs and swastika on the walls. Police found the slurs were misspelled, the swastika drawn backward and that he had moved all his furniture 20 hours before the fire."

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=4946233


"Carla Lewis, a white woman married to a black man spray painted racial slurs and KKK signs in her home to make it look like her family had been victim of a hate crime. She eventually admitted the matter to the police. Ling Salim Khalfani, the local NAACP leader, had called for the FBI to take over the investigation claiming the local PD would not take the charge seriously and pursue it as a Hate Crime."

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...=1149191103455


"Eric Young, a 19 year old black man, claimed he had been assaulted on September 4th by three white men who screamed racial slurs at him. The police found out inconsistencies in his story and he admitted fabricating the whole thing."

http://www1.arguscourier.com/apps/pb...EWS02/60915001
 
Old 07-04-2013, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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That is like saying we should back off from Al Qaeda.

These are domestic terrorists. Just because they don't agree with a passed law does not give them the right to vandalize.

They need to get over themselves and understand there are others out there that do not have to agree with them and that is not a just basis for violent actions.

They need to use violence and fear to get their point across...sounds very familiar.


What sounds really familiar is a staged hate crime.

fakehatecrimes.org


This is one of the Alinsky tactics used by liberals who can't defend their positions with logical arguments.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Nonsense.

There is nothing "natural" about bigotry.

Bigotry is learned behavior.

There is no rational, reasonable or scientific argument you can use to justify prejudice and discrimination against a community of your fellow citizens ... especially a community that has contributed so many positive things to society and has earned much support in many segments of society.


Dr. Schaller would disagree.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 04:52 AM
 
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What sounds really familiar is a staged hate crime.

fakehatecrimes.org


This is one of the Alinsky tactics used by liberals who can't defend their positions with logical arguments.
GOP tactics 101:

Hate a group of people relentlessly.

Once this group is attacked, put on your tinfoil hat, completely deny it, then cry conspiracy blaming that "da libs" did it to make the GOP look bad.

Once it's discovered the perpetrators were right wingers, keep on blaming "da libs" for it anyway.
 
Old 07-04-2013, 04:54 AM
 
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GOP tactics 101:

Hate a group of people relentlessly.

Once this group is attacked, put on your tinfoil hat, completely deny it, then cry conspiracy blaming that "da libs" did it to make the GOP look bad.

Once it's discovered the perpetrators were right wingers, keep on blaming "da libs" for it anyway.
liberal tactics 101.

1. play the race card.

that is all. end of class.
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