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Old 07-03-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Wow.

At least the detained Al-Jazeera staff have been released except for the station's director...
Read about Al Jazeera.

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The meteoric rise of the network and its increasing popularity have led many political and media commentators in the Arab world to wonder exactly who or what was behind what appears to be its main purpose: encouraging opposition and promoting incitement against Arab regimes, exposing the corruption of their leaders and their entourage, while holding to an extreme Arab nationalist attitude against the US and Israel and extolling the values of conservative – and sometimes extremist – Islam. It did not take long for one name to emerge: the Muslim Brotherhood. This hypotheisis is supported by a number of facts. The director-general of the network, Wadah Khanfar, was a member of the organization in Jordan, where he was arrested. Today he is one of the closest advisers of the emir. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi is also a member of the inner circle of the emir and is known to work closely with Khanfar. Both support Hamas. Arab researchers have succeeded in uncovering a number of other Brothers working for the network, but it is surmised that there are many more. The general consensus is that Qaradawi is the visible tip of the iceberg. In an article published in 2003 in the London-based Arabic daily Asharq al-Awsat, Maamun Fendi, a well-known Egyptian liberal thinker today living in the US, wrote that some 50 percent of the network’s personnel belong to the Muslim Brotherhood
The Global Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report » ANALYSIS: Al Jazeera General Manager And His Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas Background

The media is a powerful tool that greatly influences people as you well know based on the US news media. Al Jazeera is no different than any US news conglomerate - it has media outlets in every state in the US as well as various countries, but they all don't deliver the same news.

Although Khanfar has resigned from Al Jazeera, his "soldiers" and ideaology still remained in place.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:06 PM
 
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Well sounds like the Obama administration is gearing up to not call this a coup. If it's a coup Egyptian aid is cutoff. Can't have that. What a mess Obama is just inept.
Hillary also. I wonder if Kerry can clean up any of the mess she left.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Hillary also. I wonder if Kerry can clean up any of the mess she left.
Think about it a minute... You're talking about John Kerry...
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:20 PM
 
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True, but isn't the military in this case representing the will of the majority of the people in Egypt?
If the United States ever gets taken over by a tyrant, it will be the men and women of our military, and not some militia full of fat Bubbas, who unseat that tyrant.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:21 PM
 
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Right, because the Constitution tasks the US Government with overthrowing the elected officials of other countries if we don't like them, eh?

Why don't we drop the altruistic BS claim that we value democracy because we clearly don't when its results don't suit our agenda?
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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Personally....um, I don't really care!

Didn't they just put some nut in charge a little while ago???? The next guy will probably be just as crazy.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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The idea of a ballot box is not the core of democracy..What has taken most nations hundreds of years to achieve can not be achieved over night is some nations. The people love the military in Egypt...Pretty bad when the military is more respected than the government. Just goes to show you...You are better off with a man of honor holding a gun - than a man holding a Koran and insisting you stone the woman who showed her hair....or that it is God's will to chop of that hand for stealing.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:04 AM
 
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Pretty bad when the military is more respected than the government.
A lot of folks here seem to respect the military more than the government. Though for different reasons.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:00 AM
 
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"The military vowed Wednesday to defend its people “against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

They are talking to Obama.........
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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True, but isn't the military in this case representing the will of the majority of the people in Egypt?
A military coup is not how it works.
If they didn't like Morsi then elect another leader next time round.

What happened was a military coup, plain and simple.
And I'd wager that it was the US calling the shots for the Egyptian military as we own them lock, stock and barrel.

Seems like you condone what they did.
What if that happened here ? What if there was a majority that wanted Obama out before his term was over and the military sided with them and drove Obama out of the WH ?

And no, I'm not posing a strawman here but a valid question regarding the laws of Democracy.
You either follow them or you don't.

The WH will not call this a coup. Congress is meeting over this because a military coup demands that the US cut off all funding to that country when their democratically elected leader is deposed.
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