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Old 07-05-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No, she thinks the US should find the right puppet to run Egypt the way the US wants Egypt to run because Egyptians are incapable of running their own country and incapable of being quick learners as to how to establish and implement democracy within six months. I don't think she realizes that she supports the MB. In spite of Morsi being a radical Islamist and his one year record, she believes he deserves to serve his term because he was democratically voted into office in spite of his undemocratic governing. It's the principle of democracy, not the actions of a radical Islamist that matters.
Actually I think the US should stay out of it but that is not our history.

I don't live in Egypt and I don't have to support anyone.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No, I'm not pro-Morsi nor pro-Brotherhood.

The politics at play over who will rule Egypt is being fought above the people by outsiders.
In the end the people will be the losers. They always are.

The US owns the army. The US backed the Brotherhood. The US was cautious on Morsi and ignored the inhumanities that Morsi allowed..we could have cut funding.

The Ambassador in Egypt was a very vocal supporter of Morsi and the Embassy was evacuated when the military threw out Morsi.

I just don't think the elections in Egypt are above board and truly by the people.
I think there's heavy propaganda influencing them.
The US had to put on an appearance of accepting whoever won the elections last year, because the outcome was the result of democracy and free elections, and we always support that. However, I think US did influence the current events and the ousting of the islamists.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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No, I'm not pro-Morsi nor pro-Brotherhood.

The politics at play over who will rule Egypt is being fought above the people by outsiders.
In the end the people will be the losers. They always are.

The US owns the army. The US backed the Brotherhood. The US was cautious on Morsi and ignored the inhumanities that Morsi allowed..we could have cut funding.

The Ambassador in Egypt was a very vocal supporter of Morsi and the Embassy was evacuated when the military threw out Morsi.

I just don't think the elections in Egypt are above board and truly by the people.
I think there's heavy propaganda influencing them.
How many personalities do you have??

You have been going on about how Morsi was voted in based on a democratic election and should not have been ousted (that would be you supporting the MB), and now you state that you think the elections weren't above board and not by the people, which is to say that the voting process was corrupt, that he stole the election. That would be undemocratic. All the more reason to remove him from office!!!
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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They elected him. He won by majority vote. He's in office for 4 years.
They need to learn about democracy and voting.
A military coup is the way they change their minds ?
What happens when they don't like the next elected President after a year ?
Another coup ?

I know what he did over that year. I also know that the US government kept their eyes closed, their mouth shut and continued to shovel money and debt forgiveness to them. The USG ignored what was going on until they couldn't anymore and now are trying to get on the other side of the fence.
He only won by 51% of the vote, and that is because they were given 2 dirtbags to vote for - this one lied to them and they chose what looked the better of 2 evils. Like what we end up doing here.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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The US had to put on an appearance of accepting whoever won the elections last year, because the outcome was the result of democracy and free elections, and we always support that. However, I think US did influence the current events and the ousting of the islamists.
Obama has been in bed with the MB since 2009. He has filled the government with members of the MB. The MB has taken a different approach in developed countries to achieve their mission (jihad) which is to globalize Islam through a peaceful jihad. The MB is not welcomed in several ME countries and are considered a terrorist organization. If there are ME countries that take that position, you would think Obama would have reconsidered his position with the MB.
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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How many personalities do you have??

You have been going on about how Morsi was voted in based on a democratic election and should not have been ousted (that would be you supporting the MB), and now you state that you think the elections weren't above board and not by the people, which is to say that the voting process was corrupt, that he stole the election. That would be undemocratic. All the more reason to remove him from office!!!
Just keep in mind that it was a military coup, not a people's rebellion that ousted Morsi.
It was a military coup before as well.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Israel speaks up....

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/06/wo...w-nytimes&_r=0
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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Morsy may be under house arrest.

A military coup is under-way, crushing the Muslim Brotherhood.

Now what? Civil war or democracy?
Ask Obama, he is the braniac on the left. I'm sure the Egyptian people are just dying to know who Obama will choose to be his next "*****"
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Just keep in mind that it was a military coup, not a people's rebellion that ousted Morsi.
It was a military coup before as well.
And???
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Old 07-05-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Obama has been in bed with the MB since 2009. He has filled the government with members of the MB. The MB has taken a different approach in developed countries to achieve their mission (jihad) which is to globalize Islam through a peaceful jihad. The MB is not welcomed in several ME countries and are considered a terrorist organization. If there are ME countries that take that position, you would think Obama would have reconsidered his position with the MB.
Now Obama is connected to the muslim brotherhood, who are the appointees? Seems like he should be cutting off military aid if you are correct but that's not the case is it.
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