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Old 09-20-2013, 07:17 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I want no part of the dog of a thread...Im out.


Were you ever in it?

LOL!
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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"It is Their Right, It is Their Duty, To Throw Off Such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

Jefferson wrote that into the Declaration of Independence. He was describing what people should do if their government kept doing repeated actions that took away freedom; especially when that government made it clear that they were dloing it as part of a deliberate plan.

And the Declaration was voted unanimously into law, on July 4, 1776. And remains legally binding, just as any other laws passed then or since.

Overthrowing an oppressive government, isn't just a good idea. It's the LAW.
And we do, via our vote.
Aww, isn't that cute?

Little carterstamp thinks that, once a government becomes tyrannical (or is "reduced to absolute despotism", as Jefferson described it), he will be able to throw it out by voting!

I guess that's the kind of thing we should expect from someone who believes that making laws will cause criminals who don't obey laws, to give up their guns.

A pattern seems to be emerging amongst our brethern of the southpaw persuasion.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Aww, isn't that cute?

Little carterstamp thinks that, once a government becomes tyrannical (or is "reduced to absolute despotism", as Jefferson described it), he will be able to throw it out by voting!

I guess that's the kind of thing we should expect from someone who believes that making laws will cause criminals who don't obey laws, to give up their guns.

A pattern seems to be emerging amongst our brethern of the southpaw persuasion.
I cant believe anyone would be soo clueless.
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Old 05-02-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I want no part of the dog of a thread...Im out.
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Were you ever in it?

LOL!
They never are, now if they could just leave this nation..
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Old 05-02-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Aww, isn't that cute?

Little carterstamp thinks that, once a government becomes tyrannical (or is "reduced to absolute despotism", as Jefferson described it), he will be able to throw it out by voting!
I think little little-acorn seems to think America doesn't have strong non-governmental institutions that would allow such a thing to happen. Or such a thing could happen overnight.

There is no real movement to take away all types of firearms just those suckers who lap it up straight to the gun store or gun show.

It just seems a bunch of country folk just mad they can't do whatever the f*ck they want anymore.

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I guess that's the kind of thing we should expect from someone who believes that making laws will cause criminals who don't obey laws, to give up their guns.
And murders and violent crimes have stopped because capital punishment? Stupid logic, try again.

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A pattern seems to be emerging amongst our brethern of the southpaw persuasion.
Right back at y'all.
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Old 05-02-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I cant believe anyone would be soo clueless.
I would. Every resistance to the federal government has been put down.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I think little little-acorn seems to think America doesn't have strong non-governmental institutions that would allow such a thing to happen. Or such a thing could happen overnight.
You mean those strong institutions that are funded my the likes of Soros and Koch's?
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There is no real movement to take away all types of firearms just those suckers who lap it up straight to the gun store or gun show.
This is the same old trick of saying "there's nothing going on" and then one day... it's all gone. Here in California the Senators cheered as they passed illegal gun control bills. Three months later 3 of those Senators have been arrested for voter fraud, money laundering, and ARMS TRAFFICKING!

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It just seems a bunch of country folk just mad they can't do whatever the f*ck they want anymore.
And there it is... attacking an entire demographic.

You're firing on all cylinders today. Isn't it uncomfortable sleeping with Alinsky under your pillow?
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:06 PM
 
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The Declaration of Independence is only "law" in the sense of severing our connection with England. It is not "legally binding" in any other sense.

The Constitution gave us a means to "throw off" oppressive government, namely the ballot box. And as an entirely practical matter, if you can't get enough people to vote for your program, you won't get enough people to die for it either.
The odd thing is...you need less people that are willing to die for it than you do people to vote for it.

True story.

If only people realized that
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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They never are, now if they could just leave this nation..
And your right to make that judgment is???

The answer is that you have none. Only your poor (very) opinion.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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And your right to make that judgment is???

The answer is that you have none. Only your poor (very) opinion.
If you favor systems and political systems or ideologues which are antithetical to the virtues, values, views, and foundations which this nation is founded on...Please leave. If you want single payer health care, move to Canada, If you want a ban on firearms, move to England, If you love a certain culture or nationality, move to said nation do not import millions of illegals into this nation to degenerate this nation into a 3rd world slum for political gain.

Why should American become "just another nation"?

The phrase "love or leave it" has a great deal of logic to it..
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