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Old 07-04-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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Poll: 71 percent of Americans say founding fathers would be disappointed - U.S. News

I for one would have to agree. Our current administration, both Dems and GOPs, have forgotten, "of the people, by the people, for the people."
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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Amen.

No one has our best interest in mind in Washington and the leader of thus country cares most about himself. Loves the title while bucking the job.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Power and greed don't have a political party. They only have agendas.. Which agenda are you unknowingly supporting is the only question at this point..
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Poll: 71 percent of Americans say founding fathers would be disappointed - U.S. News

I for one would have to agree. Our current administration, both Dems and GOPs, have forgotten, "of the people, by the people, for the people."
I doubt 71% of Americans can name three founding fathers.

Sarah Palin, case in point:

Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin on the Founding Fathers - YouTube
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I doubt 71% of Americans can name three founding fathers.

Sarah Palin, case in point:

Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin on the Founding Fathers - YouTube
Sarah Palin ain't exactly a member of the top knowledgeable 71%.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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Poll: 71 percent of Americans say founding fathers would be disappointed - U.S. News

I for one would have to agree. Our current administration, both Dems and GOPs, have forgotten, "of the people, by the people, for the people."
I can't remember the last time we had a government that was run For The People. I'm going back to before Reagan and struggling. Both parties have definitely sought power and control for decades, and they did Build That power. We just pay for That.

Our previous administration sucks, and it's just gotten worse. Those that take sides merely encourage them.
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Old 07-04-2013, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Poll: 71 percent of Americans say founding fathers would be disappointed - U.S. News

I for one would have to agree. Our current administration, both Dems and GOPs, have forgotten, "of the people, by the people, for the people."
No, the founders would not be happy to see the two parties sabotaging the country only to make their opponents look bad.
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Old 07-04-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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I would agree that probably 71% couldn't name 3 founding fathers.. That in and of itself should be alarming..
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Old 07-04-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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No, the founders would not be happy to see the two parties sabotaging the country only to make their opponents look bad.
That's only because during the first years of the Republic the people didn't have cable TV so they could watch the intercine warfare between the Democratic-Republicans and the Federalist.

From the Democratic-Republican newspaper:

A SK—who lies here beneath this monument?
L o!—’tis a self created MONSTER, who
E mbraced all vice. His arrogance was like
X erxes, who flogg’d the disobedient sea,
A dultery his smallest crime; when he
N obility affected. This privilege
D ecreed by Monarchs, was to that annext.
E nticing and entic’d to ev’ry fraud,
R enounced virtue, liberty and God.
H aunted by whores—he haunted them in turn
A ristocratic was this noble Goat
M onster of monsters, in pollution skill’d
I mmers’d in mischief, brothels, funds & banks
L ewd slave to lust,—afforded consolation;
T o mourning whores, and tory-lamentation.
O utdid all fools, tainted with royal name;
N one but fools, their wickedness proclaim.

The Founding Mudslingers - Washington Post
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Old 07-04-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Houston
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That's only because during the first years of the Republic the people didn't have cable TV so they could watch the intercine warfare between the Democratic-Republicans and the Federalist.

From the Democratic-Republican newspaper:

A SK—who lies here beneath this monument?
L o!—’tis a self created MONSTER, who
E mbraced all vice. His arrogance was like
X erxes, who flogg’d the disobedient sea,
A dultery his smallest crime; when he
N obility affected. This privilege
D ecreed by Monarchs, was to that annext.
E nticing and entic’d to ev’ry fraud,
R enounced virtue, liberty and God.
H aunted by whores—he haunted them in turn
A ristocratic was this noble Goat
M onster of monsters, in pollution skill’d
I mmers’d in mischief, brothels, funds & banks
L ewd slave to lust,—afforded consolation;
T o mourning whores, and tory-lamentation.
O utdid all fools, tainted with royal name;
N one but fools, their wickedness proclaim.

The Founding Mudslingers - Washington Post
They did not think much better of Adams. No punches were pulled back then.
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