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No i don't, i think gov't needs to stay out of most everything having to do with relationships.
The poster i was speaking with, said there were none, when there in fact are.
Many States did not listen to the Feds, and still have Sodomy laws on the books...
look at this map.
Also if someone engages in sodomy with a minor, they can be prosecuted separately from standard intercourse.
Ergo... sodomy laws.
And I am against pointless sodomy laws because the government doesn't belong in the bedroom.
Surftown,
I'm not sure what your point is.
Race has nothing to do with homosexual fetishes. Once cannot "come out of the closet" about one's race.
It seems that you are changing the subject - presenting polygamy and racial predudice, both of which are unethical, IMO.
If you want to discuss scripture... there's a couple that address your concerns... "Man looketh on the outward appearance, but God looketh on the heart." "God is no respector of persons." That goes for race, religion or weaknesses (including homosexual fetishes).
Yet, God is LOVE based on truth and light.
Love is that which is healthy - homosexual practices statistically prove to be unhealthy, according to health reports gathered from the US CDC.
Truth is that we are created by a man's sperm and a female's egg unifying.
Truth is that sensual practices between 2 of the same gender are NEVER truly sex, but rather are fetishes, like anal sex and dildos.
"FETISH: any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation."
Soul, you are not sure what my point is because you are not using good reading comprehension. I specifically quoted your statement that traditional marriage is one man and one woman, and my post was in response to that, and my point was that traditional and biblical marriage is one man and SEVERAL women, all of the SAME race. Interracial marriages are not traditional not biblical. One man one woman marriages are not traditional and didn't appear until the later parts of the bible. You might be holding steadfast to the heterosexuality component of a traditional marriage, but the liberal media has deceived you with their contemporary version of marriage so you are not including the other components of a traditional biblical based marriage.
Webster's Dictionary: Marriage: the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law
"To claim that to deny two people of the same gender to marry is “discrimination” is the same as saying that it’s discrimination to deny that a square is a circle!
It is a privilege for a man and woman to marry and have children and to have society honour them. I deliberately say that it is a “privilege” for a man and a woman to marry to highlight one of the glaring problems with this kind of counter appeal. This emotional counter appeal assumes that marriage is a “right” – it fails to appreciate that marriage is a privilege. No one can legitimately demand a privilege. Just as circles are round, marriage is between a man and a woman."
Awwww, sweetie, you can pull all the squares and circles that you want out of your pocket. You can add hexagons and parallelograms into the mix for good measure. However, the fact remains that SSM WILL be the law of the land, from sea to shining sea.
Now, you can trot alongside the cart, contented and intact, or you can be dragged behind it, bleeding and muttering about fetishes through a mouthful of gravel and bloody broken teeth.
The choice is yours.
What does sex, procreation, and marriage have anything to do with each other?
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Originally Posted by momonkey
If we are talking about a marriage between one man and one woman, sex can and often does lead to procreation and the children born to this couple are joined to their parents in a legally defined family unit with a common sir name.
If we are talking about same-sex marriage, one obviously has nothing to do with the others and the real purpose of marrying two persons of the same sex is use the power of the state to force an association that would otherwise not exist in hopes of making one type of union the same as the other.
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What about heterosexual couples that can't have children or don't want to have children, are they not allowed to marry? Should the government tell people when they can have sex and with who?
Male and female unions that are unlikely to result in procreation are still unions in harmony with nature's design. Homosexual unions are in direct opposition to nature's design, so one has nothing to do with the other. Certainly the ruse that is same-sex marriage should be called out for being the manipulative scam that it is.
"Should the government tell people when they can have sex and with who?"
That's with whom, and no.
When government gets involved in our personal affairs they do so for their purposes and that's always a bad thing.
Awwww, sweetie, you can pull all the squares and circles that you want out of your pocket. You can add hexagons and parallelograms into the mix for good measure. However, the fact remains that SSM WILL be the law of the land, from sea to shining sea.
Now, you can trot alongside the cart, contented and intact, or you can be dragged behind it, bleeding and muttering about fetishes through a mouthful of gravel and bloody broken teeth.
The choice is yours.
You did NOT just offer a Fundie the chance to see himself as a martyr, did you? They LOVE that. I suspect some of them get off on it, actually.
Male and female unions that are unlikely to result in procreation are still unions in harmony with nature's design. Homosexual unions are in direct opposition to nature's design, so one has nothing to do with the other. Certainly the ruse that is same-sex marriage should be called out for being the manipulative scam that it is.
I fully agree with you. We need to all start living according to nature's design. So many things today are not in line with the natural laws of nature. For instance, birth control and condoms, medicines and technologies that keep people alive when they naturally would have died, microwaved and canned food, farmed fish, baby formula (they should be breast fed until they can eat solid food), ceaserain sections, and so much more.
Male and female unions that are unlikely to result in procreation are still unions in harmony with nature's design. Homosexual unions are in direct opposition to nature's design, so one has nothing to do with the other. Certainly the ruse that is same-sex marriage should be called out for being the manipulative scam that it is.
"Should the government tell people when they can have sex and with who?"
That's with whom, and no.
When government gets involved in our personal affairs they do so for their purposes and that's always a bad thing.
Yet you think the government should tell homosexuals they shouldn't be allowed to get married. You anti-gay people are such an odd bunch.
You hide behind things such as "nature's design" while ignoring the world around you as if you can find all your answers in a book of fairy tales.
You are right though, government shouldn't be involved in personal affairs, they should simply be allowed to create legally binding contracts for two individuals to join together with, it isn't the government's place to deny same sex marriage, nor is it your place to deny others the right to marriage just because you don't like homosexuality.
In the end, that is no one else's problem but yours.
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