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Old 07-06-2013, 06:28 PM
 
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so...300?

So in order for any point to be made about the apathy regarding inner-city gun violence...the head count has to be absolute 0??

If it was 200 instead of 300 would you feel differently? How about if it was 90?

300 people in Baltimore is pretty irrelevant IMO...and how about we check the demographics? How many were in their 20's? 30's?

Shoot..if it was 1000 and 90% of them were 45 (or so) and up...wouldn't mean much to me.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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While it's possible I saw no one in the article blame guns. It seems to me the only real blame was put on providing bad examples for others.
Inner city youth are in trouble.. They don't have two parent homes, values and morals.. They look to other inner city youth for their guidance... Children having children who have no idea of the responsibilities of raising a child. The drug culture and all the trappings that go with it.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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This is good. There are people who want to do something about this problem. This is not the first march against violence. There have been marches against violence. For those who believe that Blacks don't care about the violence that happens, hopefully, this should show otherwise.

It is a start, but I also feel like this is not enough. Marches have been done, and the problem still exists. It will take more than this. This is a good start. However, it will take more than this. There are so many other issues to tackle as well. It isn't so much about guns as it is criminal behavior. It is about the drug way. There are too many people who are unemployed. There are those who haven't been raised properly and have turned to criminal behavior. It is good to get behind this march and to support it. It is also important to understand that it will take alot more. For one, this "drug war" has been a fiasco, and needs to be ended.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:31 PM
 
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Let's have a 300 Man March against Deadbeat Dads in the Inner-City...

Most of these gun wielding criminals are products of dysfunctional homes and gang life. Yes, let's also end the drug war so there are no pawns in these streets to be played.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:43 PM
 
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Let's have a 300 Man March against Deadbeat Dads in the Inner-City...

Most of these gun wielding criminals are products of dysfunctional homes and gang life. Yes, let's also end the drug war so there are no pawns in these streets to be played.
How do you know that wasnt part of thier march? They could have been civic, community, and religious leaders all comming toghther with that very message.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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How do you know that wasnt part of thier march? They could have been civic, community, and religious leaders all comming toghther with that very message.
They could have been... and I would wager that they were.

But why under the Anti-Gun message? How about Anti-Crime? How about a 300 Man Pro-Accountability March?

Why the GUN moniker? Are guns the biggest problem? Or is it just because ANTI-GUN is MUCH more sexy? This is just a textbook example of how conflation and slapping of a label can push and agenda and, irresponsibly, take away somebodies rights.

If you had a "Responsible Fathers" march... does that compromise any law abiding civilians right to bear arms? No, it doesn't
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Uh huh. The police CAN'T protect anyone, unless, of course, specially detailed to do so. They can only respond to the aftermath, and, in many cases, arrest someone who was only defending themselves. The only way that the gang infested places will ever be taken back, is, if, the good people band together and run out the rats.

This march, well, it was cool. However, it woul have been a lot cooler if tbey were marching into gangville, carrying 12 gauges and ARs , driving terrified "gangstas' before them.
That would be awesome, but it would also be vigilantism. We are a nation of laws gone amuck. Politicians chain the law abiding citizens in the name of safety.

Besides, when rats are driven from one field, they generally end up in the neighbors barn. People need to arm themselves safely, and let these rats know that if they cause trouble, they'll become a statistic. No place to run, no place to hide... problem solved.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:04 PM
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So much for the notion that those plagued by inner-city gun violence are somehow indifferent to it or even complicit in its continuance. File this under: "News you won't likely hear much about as it contravenes popular depictions and assumptions about those most affected by gun violence".



2 More Killed In Baltimore City As Hundreds March To Stop The Violence « CBS Baltimore
"Gun violence" is such a dumb phrase. Why not march against violence, period. They make it sound as if guns are the only weapons people use to hurt others. Guns are actually a help to prevent violence. Home invasions have slowed down considerably here in North Carolina since we got the castle law. Maybe they need to set about arming every peaceful family so those who want to cause violence end up the victims for a change.

Since many home invaders end up breaking into multiple homes before the police catch them maybe that could be cut down with the first armed home and the rest of the homes would be spared.

I have noticed that when a person ends up killing someone they usually have a list of crimes they did about a mile long. Then they finally do something bad enough to get them put away for good.

I am glad they are aware of the crime problem but blaming it on guns is not going to get any results. Guns can do nothing until a human picks it up. If these criminals do not have a gun they will use something else. Crime happens because people were never taught the ten commandments.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:04 PM
 
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They are plagued by gun violence because the state restricts access to weapons for the poor. And the state refuses to provide security for the poor.

If the state was interested in reducing crime in these areas they would offer tax breaks for these folks to purchase guns, gun safes, and firearms classes. Then they would be able to protect themselves without waiting on the police who have made it clear they could care less about black people living in the ghetto.
We managed to cut down on drunken driving accidents but then nobody thought adding more alcohol was the answer.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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They are plagued by gun violence because the state restricts access to weapons for the poor. And the state refuses to provide security for the poor.

If the state was interested in reducing crime in these areas they would offer tax breaks for these folks to purchase guns, gun safes, and firearms classes. Then they would be able to protect themselves without waiting on the police who have made it clear they could care less about black people living in the ghetto.
This is very true as well.... and if they ended the drug war, there would be a lot of less black inner city males convicted and, subsequently, denied due to background checks.

But, I tend to believe many would simply turn to the "The powers that be want us to kill each other even more" ploy.
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