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It's not a tax when the only people paying it are the ones who have already received an education.
Yes, those students would get the free tuition, but I would think they will still pay forward, since that's the idea.
If there's any logic to this, those students would pay an adjusted percentage. So instead of 3 %, someone who dropped out after 1 year would only pay .75 % of their income back under this system.
Maybe someone who dropped out after 1 month, might be excused or something like that.
Interesting. What about students who drop out after 4 years with only receiving a bachelors degree and never completing college? Right now, we produce an insane amount of people who drop out of college study after their bachelors. For such a system to succeed, we have to make sure students complete college. Even if that means fewer students will attend overall... at least the ones who do, will complete it.
If you receive a bachelors degree, then you didn't drop out, you completed a degree.
But you didn't complete college. We have the lowest rates of students completing college in the US since New College was established in the 1600's. Those dropping out of college study (as a percentage of attendees) has sharply risen since WWII. We produce an insane amount of bachelor's degree holders that don't follow up with the completion of study. Worse, many of the students go through mediocre programs.
What happens to all those people that suffered, scrimped and took responsibility for their own education? Are they going to be getting paid back? Will their be a refund program? Dumb, stupid idea.
But you didn't complete college. We have the lowest rates of students completing college in the US since New College was established in the 1600's. Those dropping out of college study (as a percentage of attendees) has sharply risen since WWII. We produce an insane amount of bachelor's degree holders that don't follow up with the completion of study. Worse, many of the students go through mediocre programs.
What is your definition of "completing college" because I don't think it is matching mine. I have a bachelors degree that I have completed, therefore I completed college. There are several levels of college and I felt it would be a waste of money to go for a higher degree in my field when the return in pay wouldn't be any different for me.
What happens to all those people that suffered, scrimped and took responsibility for their own education? Are they going to be getting paid back? Will their be a refund program? Dumb, stupid idea.
It is sort of a this point forward kind of thing, there will be plenty of future generations to come. That would be like asking for a refund check from years ago even though you were too young to get one.
What happens to all those people that suffered, scrimped and took responsibility for their own education? Are they going to be getting paid back? Will their be a refund program? Dumb, stupid idea.
Why would they get paid back? Are you suggesting they get paid back, and then 3% be deducted from their paycheck?
What is your definition of "completing college" because I don't think it is matching mine. I have a bachelors degree that I have completed, therefore I completed college. There are several levels of college and I felt it would be a waste of money to go for a higher degree in my field when the return in pay wouldn't be any different for me.
In academia, completing college consists of attaining a terminal degree (MBA, Pharm.D, PhD, BA for teaching, etc.)
They offering free degrees in fields that have some of the highest unemployment and lowest paying jobs. Do you really think that's a sensible thing to do? Do you want to encourage even more people to go into those fields?
What happens when they can't find a job and end up working flipping burgers? Is that going to pay the costs of their education? Seems to me this doomed to failure.
Sure, let's all take the GOP approach to life and drop out of school after the 5th grade, as we're all destine to be toilet scrubbers and burger flippers anyway
But you didn't complete college. We have the lowest rates of students completing college in the US since New College was established in the 1600's. Those dropping out of college study (as a percentage of attendees) has sharply risen since WWII. We produce an insane amount of bachelor's degree holders that don't follow up with the completion of study. Worse, many of the students go through mediocre programs.
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78
What is your definition of "completing college" because I don't think it is matching mine. I have a bachelors degree that I have completed, therefore I completed college. There are several levels of college and I felt it would be a waste of money to go for a higher degree in my field when the return in pay wouldn't be any different for me.
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Originally Posted by NJBest
In academia, completing college consists of attaining a terminal degree (MBA, Pharm.D, PhD, BA for teaching, etc.)
College has become a joke to many. They don't care about education or academia. They just want the piece of paper because society has told them to have it. They don't care whether they learn or not. Did you know that many college students don't participate in academic research and only care about classes? It's really become quite diluted. The government doesn't even care that very few students are prepared to continue higher education after their bachelors. And they throw money at these folks.
We should culture well-educated adults. Not half-educated adults.
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