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Old 07-07-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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Sounds like a good idea on paper. However as with many liberal ideas it will probably collapse in failure.
Well next will be the call to tax everyone, just like they do for elementary schools.. You know its coming..
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Sounds like a good idea on paper. However as with many liberal ideas it will probably collapse in failure.
I thought so to but a college student should be able to pay for their own education....
I liked the idea of "free" pre-school better, as long as its top notch quality pre-school and not some hippy sitting at a table with some kids coloring and playing house.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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I'm thoroughly confused. How is a BA not a completion of a four year degree?
You misread what is being said.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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You're right. That's why we have a shortage of doctors and other professionals. Many people don't want to take on that kind of debt. All the more reason to support a program like the one in the OP.
This program only applies to 4-year degrees at public schools in oregon. Do you really want your doctor to be from a public school in Oregon?
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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Yes and I think it is a far superior system than what we have in the states. Our educational system presupposes that all people need, have the aptitude for and will excel at traditional four year schools. I think this is a drag on our economy too. We haven't embraced vocations outside of the academic bubble for decades. Where has that brought us?
Agreed. This and the fact that we have eliminated all standards of higher education.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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If someone has received a bachelor's degree, one HAS completed college as it is understood in this country.

As for the OP, interesting idea. Time will tell how it works in practice.
The fact that this country equates completing a 4-year degree to completing college is extremely sad. Higher education standards have gone downhill in the US due to this awful misconception and most people don't realize this.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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Cooper Union is free because they own so much land in Manhattan that they can afford to be a free college, also they are a private college and getting into that school is extremely hard.
That was my point. The European schools that have free funding slots are equally as competitive. If you want to talk about how countries like Germany offers free or low tuition... you have to talk about how competitive college admission is there as well. We have the same opportunities at our competitive universities.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Hum, sounds like a social security scheme in it's infancy. wonderful.....
It works well in Australia. Actually it is the easiest way to eliminate student debt and make it easier for students to start their post graduate careers debt free and able to make real investments.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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Those are each individual degrees, one can complete college with a bachelors degree.
They cannot. Completing college has always required a terminal degree. It has only been recently that people have perceiving otherwise (The last 70-80 years). Higher academia did not and does not serve a purpose of pumping out half-educated bachelors degree graduates. That was just part of the journey to getting a full education.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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Unfortunately, the system scamsters are the base of the Democratic Party.
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Sounds like a good idea on paper. However as with many liberal ideas it will probably collapse in failure.
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Well next will be the call to tax everyone, just like they do for elementary schools.. You know its coming..
It's interesting that you folks talk without saying much. How about contributing to the discussion rather than be the peanut gallery? I know it requires some level of intellect but maybe you can find it somewhere.
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